Pacqiuao vs Mayweather: a serious compubox analysis

[Pullcounter]

Pullcounter's formula is genius. It's a foolproof way of accurately picking the winner of any fight out there. I'm gonna use it to bet real money on all fights from here out. You should all thank him for giving it to us for free. Thanks Pullcounter.

bwhahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you don't have to patronize me, just come up with your own interpretation of the numbers and stats.

[Pullcounter]

I'm going to bump this thread when the fight is over.

please do, and when you do it, please post the post-fight stats so I can compare them to my numbers.

seriously, i don't care what you *****s say after the fight, I just wanna know if my calculations are correct.

[balistik94]

that is already considered in the equation. I multiply pac's average punches thrown with floyd's opponent's connect percentage and averaged that w/ pac's average punches landed.

please get it in your heads that floyd's opponent's connect percentage already quantifies floyd's defense.

Look why don't you do the same analysis with Hatton and Mayweather? The results will show you why we don't predict fights with stats.

[Pullcounter]

Look why don't you do the same analysis with Hatton and Mayweather? The results will show you why we don't predict fights with stats.

I don't have the stats for hatton and mayweather before their fight

[The Gambler1981]

I have addressed all your criticisms of my argument, my arguement still stands.



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No you have not, you have claimed to but you refuse to accept the flaws with your analysis. Your stats and analysis are meaningless at best~

Numbers don't lie, but people using them to explain or predict certainly can.

[Jim Jeffries]

bwhahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you don't have to patronize me, just come up with your own interpretation of the numbers and stats.

I'm gonna be rich, RICH I tell ya.

Nah, but seriously it wasn't too bad as far as formulas go. The thing is, if you watched the first 4 rounds of Floyd/Zab, you'd never guess Floyd would win the next 8. He's very good at thinking on his feet and adapting to whatever his opponent is doing. The only time he's not done that was in the first Castillo fight, when he was injured, and he came back in the rematch and handled business.

One thing I can say though, is you can't multiply a guy's average punches thrown and use it in a formula, when the guy is going to fight a counter puncher like Floyd, who will be dropping that number. Look at what happened to Calzaghe's numbers against Hopkins, or Williams' numbers against Quintana. When you're getting consistently countered, you throw less, period.

[The Gambler1981]

Also your sample size in very small, with such a small sample size really hard to gather any real meaning.

[balistik94]

I don't have the stats for hatton and mayweather before their fight

Stats for Hatton : http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/hatton.shtml

Stats for Mayweather : http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/200...pubox_pre.html (you already have stats for the baldomir and oscar fights)


I'll be waiting for the results.

[Pullcounter]

No you have not, you have claimed to but you refuse to accept the flaws with your analysis. Your stats and analysis are meaningless at best~

Numbers don't lie, but people using them to explain or predict certainly can.

I have addressed all your criticisms, my analysis still stands.

I don't know how I'm lying about the numbers, I takes some numbers, run them through a formula and more numbers come out.

if you think i didn't use the same formula for floyd and pac, then do the numbers yourself.

I'm gonna be rich, RICH I tell ya.

Nah, but seriously it wasn't too bad as far as formulas go. The thing is, if you watched the first 4 rounds of Floyd/Zab, you'd never guess Floyd would win the next 8. He's very good at thinking on his feet and adapting to whatever his opponent is doing. The only time he's not done that was in the first Castillo fight, when he was injured, and he came back in the rematch and handled business.

I don't doubt that floyd can adapt, but seeing as zab was included in the sample pool, that has been incorporated in the calculation.

One thing I can say though, is you can't multiply a guy's average punches thrown and use it in a formula, when the guy is going to fight a counter puncher like Floyd, who will be dropping that number. Look at what happened to Calzaghe's numbers against Hopkins, or Williams' numbers against Quintana. When you're getting consistently countered, you throw less, period.

Like I've already said, floyd's defense (floyd's opponent's connect percentage)has already been incorporated in the formula.

Also your sample size in very small, with such a small sample size really hard to gather any real meaning.

agreed, but if you go too far back w/ the sample size then you skew the results because both fighters don't fight the same as they did 5 years ago.

Stats for Hatton : http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/hatton.shtml

Stats for Mayweather : http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/200...pubox_pre.html (you already have stats for the baldomir and oscar fights)


I'll be waiting for the results.

aw man, that's way too much work... I need the stats compiled in a form like in the 2 links I provided in the first post

[Calilloyd]

why not? he let every other fighter in his career do that. Thats how Oscar, Hatton, and even Marquez landed blows.

They all landed a very low percentage of blows and certainly nothing meaningful. No fighter goes through a fight without getting hit at least one time.