Pacqiuao vs Mayweather: a serious compubox analysis

[The Gambler1981]

lols... then you have no argument.

I will engage you on your level then, since you cannont engage me on mine's:

YOU ****** ***** FLOYD IS GAY AND SO ARE YOU!

it seems this is the kind of argumentation you prefer.

Well you are the one that started off with the name calling and have continued while I have kept on topic. I laid out my points and others have basically said teh same thing, your view is flawed and by refusing to accept those flaws you make your arguement that much weaker because you do not understand the point.



Also are you trying to define irony?

[K-Nan]

lols... how many times I gotta say this... floyd's defense is already calculated in the equation because I multiply pac's average punches per round by floyd's opponent's connect percentage and average that with pac's average punches landed per round.

if you understood the math you will see that I am not skewing anything.

What are you doing to balance the fact that Pac's connect percentage was against DLH and Hatton? There is literally no way to balance that in a realistic manner. Floyd will not get hit as much as them. Period. Not even remotely close. And the Hatton fight skews the numbers even further.

[balistik94]

This analysis is flawed because Floyd is the best defensive fighter Pac would ever fight therefore Pac would land A LOT less punches than usual. You also have to take into account the fact that Pac had trouble chasing Cotto when he decided to use the ring which is Floyd's bread and butter (not to mention Cotto landed a lot of jabs). And Pac has never fought a slick american fighter who would tie him up, break his rhythm and neutralize his offense. It's not just about who is busier or lands more punches per round this sport is not as simple as that. Do the same analysis with Mayweather and Hatton or Margarito and Mosley and you'll see what I mean.

[Pullcounter]

Thats the point, it doesnt matter what numbers you can contrive they wouldnt tell any facts. The fact that Morales won the first fight cant give you any indication he would lose the second fight based on any kind of punch stats considering Morales landed more and got hit less.

you can't make that assumption without having the numbers. I would love to have the stats of all boxers so that I could make an analysis, but I can't.

Well you are the one that started off with the name calling and have continued while I have kept on topic. I laid out my points and others have basically said teh same thing, your view is flawed and by refusing to accept those flaws you make your arguement that much weaker because you do not understand the point.

Also are you trying to define irony?

I have addressed all your criticisms of my argument, my arguement still stands.

What are you doing to balance the fact that Pac's connect percentage was against DLH and Hatton? There is literally no way to balance that in a realistic manner. Floyd will not get hit as much as them. Period. Not even remotely close. And the Hatton fight skews the numbers even further.

that is already considered in the equation. I multiply pac's average punches thrown with floyd's opponent's connect percentage and averaged that w/ pac's average punches landed.

please get it in your heads that floyd's opponent's connect percentage already quantifies floyd's defense.

[Pullcounter]

This analysis is flawed because Floyd is the best defensive fighter Pac would ever fight therefore Pac would land A LOT less punches than usual. You also have to take into account the fact that Pac had trouble chasing Cotto when he decided to use the ring which is Floyd's bread and butter (not to mention Cotto landed a lot of jabs). And Pac has never fought a slick american fighter who would tie him up, break his rhythm and neutralize his offense. It's not just about who is busier or lands more punches per round this sport is not as simple as that. Do the same analysis with Mayweather and Hatton or Margarito and Mosley and you'll see what I mean.

that is already considered in the equation. I multiply pac's average punches thrown with floyd's opponent's connect percentage and averaged that w/ pac's average punches landed.

please get it in your heads that floyd's opponent's connect percentage already quantifies floyd's defense.

[Bhopreign]

you can't make that assumption without having the numbers. I would love to have the stats of all boxers so that I could make an analysis, but I can't.

I can give you their previous stats but no stats would prove or suggest Morales would lose the second fight. You do this quite often, you stick with your arguments no matter what, no matter how silly they become, why though? I think you love the attention, no?

[K-Nan]

Please get it in your head that variability cannot factor in the nuances of adaptation that a world class athlete is capable of.

[Jim Jeffries]

Pullcounter's formula is genius. It's a foolproof way of accurately picking the winner of any fight out there. I'm gonna use it to bet real money on all fights from here out. You should all thank him for giving it to us for free. Thanks Pullcounter.

[Pullcounter]

I can give you their previous stats but no stats would prove or suggest Morales would lose the second fight. You do this quite often, you stick with your arguments no matter what, no matter how silly they become, why though? I think you love the attention, no?

you'd need to give me the stats of that fight as well as the stats of morales' fight w/ raheem and pac's fight w/ valasquez

Please get it in your head that variability cannot factor in the nuances of adaptation that a world class athlete is capable of.

the variablity and adaptation argument works both for pac and floyd, therefore its a wash, since both neither gain nor lose the advantage based on variablity and adaptation.

[K-Nan]

you'd need to give me the stats of that fight as well as the stats of morales' fight w/ raheem and pac's fight w/ valasquez



the variablity and adaptation argument works both for pac and floyd, therefore its a wash, since both neither gain nor lose the advantage based on variablity and adaptation.

I'm going to bump this thread when the fight is over.