Pacqiuao vs Mayweather: a serious compubox analysis

[RightCross94]

1) floyd's punch output is too low
2) floyd doesn't punch hard enough

I doubt there will be a stoppage


agreed, numbers make them dizzy


his opponent's connect percentage in the last 4 fights was 25.3%... it ain't as good as floyds (16.4%), but pac's punch output will give him the fight.


his opponent's connect percentage in the last 4 fights was 25.3%... it ain't as good as floyds (16.4%), but pac's punch output will give him the fight.

floyd's a good counter puncher, but his low punch output and lack of power won't be able to keep pac off him.


yep... Floyd couldn't put away a LW. like I said, floyd doesn't throw enough punches

One of the main things a good counterpuncher can do is be able to keep a low output and still dictate the pace and befuddle an opponent- that's what Floyd does. Well placed, accurate shots, even if there aren't many can mess up opponents rhythms.

[Pullcounter]

One of the main things a good counterpuncher can do is be able to keep a low output and still dictate the pace and befuddle an opponent- that's what Floyd does. Well placed, accurate shots, even if there aren't many can mess up opponents rhythms.

Good point, but pac is an awkward fighter, so its not gonna b easy

[Pullcounter]

Fights are neither won nor lost on paper, each fight is a different event so using stats from previous fights are only valid if the people he fought are similar.

Hatton and dlh fought them both

Also you can use statistics to prove whatever you like~

Well look at my calculations and prove them wrong then, don't just make some generalizations

[Pullcounter]

Also punchstat numbers are not hard statistics like home runs hit, goals scored, touchdown thrown. They are a person pressing a button deciding what a landed punch is, I am big into sabermetrics in baseball but those are real stats, punches landed is much more in the eye of the beholder then a hit or an out.

We all know how good people are at pressing buttons for puches landed at the Olympics.

What's so hard about pressing a button whenever some lands or misses a punch?

Even a child knows how 2 do that.

The whole reason why the olympics changed the scoring was because of the many robberies. I'm not saying boxing should adopt olympic scoring and that's not even the subject of the thread.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Conclusion of the Analysis:

Even though Floyd is more accurate by .5% and his defense is better by 8.9%, Pac's high workrate overcomes the deficit and Pac manages to outland floyd by 7.26 punches per round.

Pac will throw less and land less because of Mayweathers defense, so the numbers are pretty useless when comparing them to this fight. Sure this has been said.

[Pullcounter]

Punchstat numbers do nothing to tell the quality of a punch landed either, would you like 20 punches that barely land or only partialy land or 10 clean effective head snapping blows. I prefer the 10 much more effective blows~

Eventually quality of the punches will effect the quantity of punches, by either effecting a stoppage or forcing the opponent to get overly defensive and stop throwing punches

[Scary]

When Floyd goes to the ropes that's where he will be punished. He won't see Pacs punches. He'll get hit, a lot.

[Pullcounter]

exactly Floyd has a COMPLETELY different style to the guys who come forward and try to "fight" pac....

Same thing holds true pac

Floyd will not only be moving backwards using footwork and angles he'll also be holding alot on the inside after he lands a punch all this will result in much overall lower workrate...

If floyd is running, clinching, etc... he isn't punching... its a wash... it doesn't matter in the final analysis of the stats because those tactics neutralize both their offenses

[Pullcounter]

This is the ******est thread I've seen in a while.

Not as ****** as most ***** threads

Both Pac and Floyd will fight differently against each other than they have against others, due to their respective styles, attributes etc

That is acknowledged in the limitations section of the 1st post

Your analysis is based on their respective compubox stats against other people, and then you do some bogus maths and you somehow conclude who wins

Prove the math is bogus. U just can't say its bogus and pray people take ur word for it.

Do you not realise how dumb that is?

Not as dumb as making a counterargument against the math without proving the math is bogus.

[Pullcounter]

Pac will throw less and land less because of Mayweathers defense, so the numbers are pretty useless when comparing them to this fight. Sure this has been said.

And has been refuted.

Floyd's defense negates both their offenses... the results remain the same