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  • DonTaseMeBrah
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    #11
    reason #9,999,999 why boxing is better than mma;


    No boxing superstar will ever be KTFO by a journey man with pink hair.

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #12
      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
      Boxing has been around for hundreds of years. MMA has been around for 20.

      being a true MMA fighter takes a tremendous amount of skill. Problem is because it's a fledgling sport there's plenty of wannabes trying to capitalize on it's popularity to make a quick buck.

      Give them a couple of decades to weed out the riffraff and you'll see it become alot more polished and be able to instantly differentiate between the tomato cans and the true fighters.
      Trust, I feel that, and I do respect that sport as I watch it as well.

      But the requirement it takes to be a top competitor isn't very high if you get what I'm saying.


      On another note, to this day, I've never purchased a MMA PPV, and don't see myself doing so anytime soon, I just catch the fights on ****e, even if they are two years later.


      I just heart boxing.


      I'm just very excited about it right now as we are in a position to see a great matchup between two of the sports finest athletes. I may rag on Floyd all the time, but its mostly for kicks to rattle his slurpers. I have the utmost respect for all boxers and Floyds dedication to his craft is to be respected as well.

      His resume of the last 5 years on the other hand,

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #13
        MMA isn't as awful as some of you making it out to seem. The problem is they showcase so many guys with no talent and crap skills that make fans of technique hate it. Guys like GSP are the only reason I watch MMA because the man just has skill and knows how to throw a punch, kick and do ground work. The problem with the vast majority are that they focus so much on overall technique all of it is mediocre at best. I remember watching one fight on a reply, have no idea who the guys were or even which UFC event it was. But they had an MMA "vet" against a guy with a legit boxing background and they said they were going to go in there toe to toe.

        Thats exactly what they did, and I remember thinking in the first round. No wonder this left boxing for MMA, because he's getting eaten alive by some MMA guy at boxing. But once that second round came to be it was incredible to see just how bad the MMA guy was. It was the first fight I saw in MMA where one of the guys was actually feinting, countering essentially boxing correctly and just started BUSTING the other guy up. Then I realized how quickly MMA guys gas out, and while most have glass chins, this guy getting schooled by the boxer was taking some shots. That day I realized that perhaps some of these guys do have skill but they are just so few and far between it will never be on the level of boxing until someone is able to adapt all aspects of that sport with the precision, skill and technique of what one boxer is able to do. To this day the only guy I've seen is GSP and if there were more of him in the sport it could give boxing a run for its money.

        Until then, MMA is nothing but the new kid trying to muscle up the big kid on the playground. In this case the big kid knows that while talk may get attention the fact that the big kid gets all the ***** is proof enough of who is in charge in town. And getting 1.5 million buys on a card with your top 6 headliners is not really that big of deal. As I told all my MMA buddies, if boxing were to put on a card of Mayweather/Pac, Cotto/Marg II and Klitchko vs. Klitchko on the same card we'd see about 3 to 4 million buys, or more. If 1.5 million is the best they can do with the best of the best they're still a VERY far cry from the numbers boxing can put up.
        Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 11-25-2009, 01:31 AM.

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        • Heru
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          #14
          The argument wasn't true before and it isn't true now. It'll just get harder and harder for those ****s to try and make a claim to it.

          While idiots were giving the boxing is dead argument, it was breaking records all over the world. That ***** Dana White and his ****s were pushing that ****, now they want to coexist, **** em.

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          • -Swizzy-
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            #15
            Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
            reason #9,999,999 why boxing is better than mma;


            No boxing superstar will ever be KTFO by a journey man with pink hair.

            you do realize that Kimbo Slice is just a street fighter right? and that kimbo beat Ray Mercer in like 30 seconds. not the best of examples.

            this just shows that even a tomato can mma fighter could beat a really good street fighter.
            Last edited by -Swizzy-; 11-25-2009, 01:33 AM.

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            • k1t3
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              #16
              A boxing journeyman can become a UFC Champion. FACT.

              Originally posted by Rіch Loc
              No it's not, This topic is ******.
              Originally posted by Rіch Loc
              I mean, fuck Ufc/MMA.

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              • shadeyfizzle
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                #17
                Originally posted by Tapatio
                Trust, I feel that, and I do respect that sport as I watch it as well.

                But the requirement it takes to be a top competitor isn't very high if you get what I'm saying.


                On another note, to this day, I've never purchased a MMA PPV, and don't see myself doing so anytime soon, I just catch the fights on ****e, even if they are two years later.


                I just heart boxing.


                I'm just very excited about it right now as we are in a position to see a great matchup between two of the sports finest athletes. I may rag on Floyd all the time, but its mostly for kicks to rattle his slurpers. I have the utmost respect for all boxers and Floyds dedication to his craft is to be respected as well.

                His resume of the last 5 years on the other hand,
                I feel it's not so much that the requirement for being a top competitor isnt very high as much as the gap between world class and fringe contender isnt as big as it is in boxing. But that's the result of MMA being such a young sport.

                But if you look back at MMA's true roots and essence. When there were no weight classes and no rules it took an enormous amount of skill to be an MMA fighter. 150lb Royce Gracie was going up against the likes of 240lb kajukenbo black belt Kimo Leopoldo. That takes some serious skills to overcome that kind of handicap.

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                • Benny Leonard
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                  #18
                  What nonesense. MMA is more of an all around fighting system than boxing is. Let's talk about what gives you more advantage in a street fight...and remember, boxing is part of MMA. Discuss.....




                  When you have guys like Larry Holmes saying they would have never competed in MMA because MMA fighters can kick you and do all sorts of things to you that boxing doesn't allow...then you have to consider its worth.

                  Zab Judah was also asked about MMA and he said he picked boxing instead of Kick-boxing because he didn't like to be kicked in the legs. Note kick-boxing is part of MMA.

                  Even Shane Mosley has shown respect for what MMA fighters do.

                  And if I recall correctly, even Wlad when he was on Jim Rome was asked about it when Floyd was talking about MMA and Wlad basically advised against Floyd going into MMA...which leads me to this:


                  Floyd Mayweather Sr. Thinks His Son Will Be Killed In MMA Also
                  January 3rd, 2008 . by Dell



                  Floyd Sr. on his son joining the MMA world

                  Now that’s one thing right there (laughing) I can speak out highly on. He needs to leave that **** alone. He’s going to get the same ****ing thing Vince Phillips got; leg broke, arm broke or whatever. Vince Phillips got his arm broke. You can’t mess with that…that’s what they do.
                  You can’t beat nobody at their own game…

                  ….Man, let me tell you something, they don’t even need a referee for this **** right here. They ain’t going to need a referee because he’s going to tap his own self out if he’s able. I’m just saying, if he’s able to hit the floor three times…they not going to give a mother****er 30 million dollars to fight nobodies. They are going to put him in there with a mother****er that can tear his ass up. Ain’t nobody going to go for no **** like that. All Lil Floyd doing is making himself look like a fool really. Right now, Lil Floyd is in the drivers seat, like Oscar De La Hoya was in boxing. He ain’t got to do all of that to get money. Lil Floyd could damn near get 30 million dollars to fight Cotto. Floyd trying to go where he could get the quickest money that’s all. The quickest money going to get his ass where he can’t make no money. They going to break his ****ing limbs. One of them mother****ers hit him upside his ****ing head and he may never be the same. I’m just telling the truth.



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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    What nonesense. MMA is more of an all around fighting system than boxing is. Let's talk about what gives you more advantage in a street fight...and remember, boxing is part of MMA. Discuss.....



                    I can't recall a single street fight started by someone shooting the legs, or throwing a kick.

                    I can't recall a single street fight that ended with someone winning by submission.



                    Its just basic human instinct to defend yourself with your hands first and foremost.

                    Boxing has a huge advantage in that regard imo.

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                    • Beater_of_ass
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Tapatio
                      I can't recall a single street fight started by someone shooting the legs, or throwing a kick.

                      I can't recall a single street fight that ended with someone winning by submission.



                      Its just basic human instinct to defend yourself with your hands first and foremost.

                      Boxing has a huge advantage in that regard imo.
                      Most street fights start like that, but 99% of them end up on the ground. Once one of the guys realizes that he's not going to beat the other guy with his fists he knows his best bet is to take it to the ground.

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