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  • A-Wolf
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    #71
    Originally posted by daggum
    liar! calzaghe landed over 200 punch thingys!
    round 7

    00:10 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    01:26 - hopkins counter jab upstairs

    01:26 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    01:28 - hopkins right hand to body shot

    01:51 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:11 - hopkins left hook to the body

    02:58 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    hopkins - 4
    calzaghe - 3

    round 8

    00:56 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    00:59 - hopkins right hand to the body

    01:18 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    01:22 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    01:26 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    01:35 - hopkins left hook upstairs

    01:38 - calzaghe left hook upstairs

    01:44 - hopkins counter uppercut inside

    01:48 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    01:48 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    02:12 - hopkins counter right hand

    02:20 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    02:24 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:42 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:42 - hopkins jab upstairs

    02:56 -calzaghe right hook to the body

    02:58 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    hopkins - 7
    calzaghe - 10

    round 9

    00:10 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    00:14 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    00:27 - calzaghe sweeping left hand upstairs

    00:35 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    00:54 - hopkins counter right hand inside

    01:16 - hopkins counter left hook inside

    01:56 - hopkins counter right hand

    01:58 - calzaghe counter right hook

    02:06 - calzaghe counter left hook

    02:15 - calzaghe right hook inside

    02:30 - calzaghe left hook upstairs

    02:31 - hopkins counter right hook inside (x2)

    02:38 -calzaghe left hand upstairs

    02:39 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:42 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:52 - calzaghe right hook to the body

    02:54 - hopkins uppercut inside

    02:57 - calzaghe left hook to the body

    hopkins -6
    calzaghe - 13

    round 10

    00:05 - hopkins right hand to the body

    00:42 - hopkins left/right hooks to the body (2)

    00:58 - hopkins right hand upstairs

    01:11 - hopkins right hand to the body

    01:22 - hopkins right hand upstairs

    01:39 - hopkins counter left hook

    02:33 - hopkins right hand to the body

    02:34 - calzaghe counter right hook inside

    02:35 - hopkins right hand upstairs

    02:58 - calzaghe right hook inside

    hopkins - 9
    calzaghe - 2

    round 11

    00:33 - hopkins jab upstairs

    00:35 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    00:55 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    01:09 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    01:19 - hopkins right hand upstairs

    01:35 - hopkins right hand to the body

    01:52 - hopkins right hand to the body

    02:08 - hopkins counter right hand inside

    02:36 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

    02:38 - hopkins left hook to the body

    02:51 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    hopkins - 7
    calzaghe - 4


    round 12

    00:21 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    00:23 - hopkins right hand to the body

    00:48 - calzaghe counter right hook upstairs

    01:07 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

    01:08 - calzaghe counter left hand upstairs

    01:18 - calzaghe counter right hook upstairs

    01:19 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

    01:38 - calzaghe jab/left hand upstairs (2)

    01:51 - calzaghe right hook inside

    01:52 - hopkins left hook inside

    02:08 - calzaghe jab upstairs

    02:10 - hopkins counter uppercut inside

    02:27 - hopkins left hand to the body

    02:37 - hopkins right hand to the body

    hopkins - 7
    calzaghe - 8

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      • daggum
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        #72
        Originally posted by A-Wolf
        round 7

        00:10 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        01:26 - hopkins counter jab upstairs

        01:26 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        01:28 - hopkins right hand to body shot

        01:51 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:11 - hopkins left hook to the body

        02:58 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        hopkins - 4
        calzaghe - 3

        round 8

        00:56 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        00:59 - hopkins right hand to the body

        01:18 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        01:22 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        01:26 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        01:35 - hopkins left hook upstairs

        01:38 - calzaghe left hook upstairs

        01:44 - hopkins counter uppercut inside

        01:48 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        01:48 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        02:12 - hopkins counter right hand

        02:20 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        02:24 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:42 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:42 - hopkins jab upstairs

        02:56 -calzaghe right hook to the body

        02:58 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        hopkins - 7
        calzaghe - 10

        round 9

        00:10 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        00:14 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        00:27 - calzaghe sweeping left hand upstairs

        00:35 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        00:54 - hopkins counter right hand inside

        01:16 - hopkins counter left hook inside

        01:56 - hopkins counter right hand

        01:58 - calzaghe counter right hook

        02:06 - calzaghe counter left hook

        02:15 - calzaghe right hook inside

        02:30 - calzaghe left hook upstairs

        02:31 - hopkins counter right hook inside (x2)

        02:38 -calzaghe left hand upstairs

        02:39 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:42 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:52 - calzaghe right hook to the body

        02:54 - hopkins uppercut inside

        02:57 - calzaghe left hook to the body

        hopkins -6
        calzaghe - 13

        round 10

        00:05 - hopkins right hand to the body

        00:42 - hopkins left/right hooks to the body (2)

        00:58 - hopkins right hand upstairs

        01:11 - hopkins right hand to the body

        01:22 - hopkins right hand upstairs

        01:39 - hopkins counter left hook

        02:33 - hopkins right hand to the body

        02:34 - calzaghe counter right hook inside

        02:35 - hopkins right hand upstairs

        02:58 - calzaghe right hook inside

        hopkins - 9
        calzaghe - 2

        round 11

        00:33 - hopkins jab upstairs

        00:35 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        00:55 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        01:09 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        01:19 - hopkins right hand upstairs

        01:35 - hopkins right hand to the body

        01:52 - hopkins right hand to the body

        02:08 - hopkins counter right hand inside

        02:36 - calzaghe right hook upstairs

        02:38 - hopkins left hook to the body

        02:51 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        hopkins - 7
        calzaghe - 4


        round 12

        00:21 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        00:23 - hopkins right hand to the body

        00:48 - calzaghe counter right hook upstairs

        01:07 - hopkins counter right hand upstairs

        01:08 - calzaghe counter left hand upstairs

        01:18 - calzaghe counter right hook upstairs

        01:19 - calzaghe left hand upstairs

        01:38 - calzaghe jab/left hand upstairs (2)

        01:51 - calzaghe right hook inside

        01:52 - hopkins left hook inside

        02:08 - calzaghe jab upstairs

        02:10 - hopkins counter uppercut inside

        02:27 - hopkins left hand to the body

        02:37 - hopkins right hand to the body

        hopkins - 7
        calzaghe - 8
        yeah but you didn't count any of calzaghe's misses. those are worth a lot too.

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          • A-Wolf
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            #73
            Originally posted by daggum
            yeah but you didn't count any of calzaghe's misses. those are worth a lot too.
            lmao ..........

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #74
                Whats funny is your literally arguing against no one in this thread. Read back you'll see nobody has said Clazaghe beat Hopkins. Kinda sad to see really.

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                  • dc3383
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                    #75
                    Andre Ward in a 118-110 uni decision

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                      • Weebler I
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                        #76
                        Originally posted by daggum
                        the amazing adjustments calzaghe would make....aka he would start off trying to outbox his opponent but get completely schooled and resort to desperately throwing tons of ineffective punches.
                        Ward would school Calzaghe? please. Ward may be the better inside fighter, but Joe is the better 'pure boxer' on the outside.

                        Out of interest, how do you think 2012 Ward fares against 2012 B-Hop, and 2007 B-Hop at 173lbs?

                        For me, Ward is pfp #1 (USA's best boxer) but I don't think he finds either bout easy.

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                          • Tom Cruise
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                            #77
                            Originally posted by The Weebler II
                            Ward would school Calzaghe? please. Ward may be the better inside fighter, but Joe is the better 'pure boxer' on the outside.

                            Out of interest, how do you think 2012 Ward fares against 2012 B-Hop, and 2007 B-Hop at 173lbs?

                            For me, Ward is pfp #1 (USA's best boxer) but I don't think he finds either bout easy.
                            The thing about both Ward and Calzaghe is that they always fight the style they need to win. Both can box, both can brawl etc... Which is why i think it would be a great fight for hardcore boxing fans. It wouldnt be pretty for casuals though.

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                              • Weebler I
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                                #78
                                Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                                The thing about both Ward and Calzaghe is that they always fight the style they need to win. Both can box, both can brawl etc... Which is why i think it would be a great fight for hardcore boxing fans. It wouldnt be pretty for casuals though.
                                Yeah, they are good at adapting and that is why I don't completely count JC out on the 'inside' battle with Ward. When Calzaghe had to get rough with Bika, he did and beat a better version of him than Ward did.

                                I would still make Ward favourite to win the bout but imo it's far from clear cut.

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                                  • Tom Cruise
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                                    #79
                                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                                    Yeah, they are good at adapting and that is why I don't completely count JC out on the 'inside' battle with Ward. When Calzaghe had to get rough with Bika, he did and beat a better version of him than Ward did.

                                    I would still make Ward favourite to win the bout but imo it's far from clear cut.
                                    yup pretty much how i see it...

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                                      • DreamFighter
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                                        Regarding Hopkins, Calzaghe, what I saw was a horrible, terrible fight, one of the worst I've seen for a title. A fortysomething accurate boxer who was kept gassing, versus an effervescent volume puncher who can barely land.


                                        The most accurate opinion I heard on that fight result is that both fighters lost, and Hopkins spent too long not doing anything to win, so it was decision Calzaghe by default.

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