Bernard Hopkins the legendary midget basher

[Glamour Puss]

What welterweights did hopkins ever fight???

Oscar was a WW.

[ИATAS]

Oscar was a WW.

How was oscar a welterweight when his previous fights were at 160 and 154? He wasn't a welterweight in years. Try again.

[Adamantium]

How was oscar a welterweight when his previous fights were at 160 and 154? He wasn't a welterweight in years. Try again.

A guy who made his pro debut at lw against a guy who made his pro debut at lhw, I wonder who would win that fight?

[ИATAS]

A guy who made his pro debut at lw against a guy who made his pro debut at lhw, I wonder who would win that fight?

So you're saying Oscar had the body of a LW at the time? Are you insane? People grow and oscar was definitely a natural 154 pound fighter at the time. That's like saying Pacquiao is a 106 pound fighter, when he's clearly grown into his welterweight body. Your logic here is deeply flawed and you know it.

I already stated oscar didn't look good at 160, but so what? Oscar challenged bhop and made hopkins fight him at 156 pounds. Would any fighter in the business turn down a fight with oscar? HELL NO. People would kill to fight oscar, as that was for a long time the biggest possible fight in boxing. That was Bernard's money fight. Beating oscar isn't what's getting him into the hall of fame.

[fdotorres]

Come fight time Pavlik was 171 lbs, depending on who you believe Hopkins was either 180 lbs (according to HBO), or 187 lbs (according to Jack Leow).

Tito's whole resume is shady, after being caught loading up his wraps after the Hopkins pre-fight fiasco, without his wraps it was shown that Tito didnt have the skill or power to compete with the mw's, hence his retirement.

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[fdotorres]

Duran was prepared to face bigger opponents win or lose, Something which Hopkins has refused to do.

Tito was undefeated at ww and at jmw, at mw he went 2-3 hardly his prime division. As I pointed out before, Tito has been cheating for most of his career. Without the wraps he didnt have the power or boxing skill to be a threat to the much bigger Hopkins.

DLH started fighting as a lw, and had no business at mw. Winky had to move up two weight divisions and should of won that fight. Hopkins should of got dq for all those headbutts.

As for the Tarver fight, do you think it was just a coincidence that Hopkins chose to fight an opponent who had to lose 45 lbs? Look what happened to Jones when he lost 20 lbs. Why hasnt he fought another lhw who has not had to drop 45 lbs?

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[fdotorres]

So you're saying Oscar had the body of a LW at the time? Are you insane? People grow and oscar was definitely a natural 154 pound fighter at the time. That's like saying Pacquiao is a 106 pound fighter, when he's clearly grown into his welterweight body. Your logic here is deeply flawed and you know it.

I already stated oscar didn't look good at 160, but so what? Oscar challenged bhop and made hopkins fight him at 156 pounds. Would any fighter in the business turn down a fight with oscar? HELL NO. People would kill to fight oscar, as that was for a long time the biggest possible fight in boxing. That was Bernard's money fight. Beating oscar isn't what's getting him into the hall of fame.

beating a lot a smaller guys like oscar is what's gonna get him onto the HOF

[Pullcounter]

the difference between bhop and floyd is that bhop went up to lt. HW and beat the best fighter there (Tarver).

floyd has not fought the best fighter at WW.

[Hyde]

Ok so I guess Calzaghe should not get any credit for beating Hopkins then since Hopkins was basicly a blown up middleweight? by your logic he wouldn't but you are using double-standards so its ok.

You are an idiot. People grow, yes even fighters do. I guess Manny Pacquiao is still a flyweight aswell?

Felix Trinidad was a legit light mid/middleweight when Hopkins beat him. Felix Trinidad had unified belts at light middlweight and won a belt at middleweight. Trinidad was also the favorite to win.

ODLH had also won belts at light middleweight and middleweight, he shure as hell werent a welterweight anymore.

Pavlik was also the favorite to win and is a big middleweight anyway.

[Glamour Puss]

How was oscar a welterweight when his previous fights were at 160 and 154? He wasn't a welterweight in years. Try again.

You said he never fought WW's.

Oscar was a WW.