Did Ward remind anyone else of a billy goat with that last headbutt?

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  • Allucard
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    #41
    Originally posted by revs1227
    yeah shoulda dq his ass
    lol for 2 unintentional fouls? hahaha what a joke. coming from a guy with hatton in his sig, a guy who made a career of holding and hitting on the breaks.
    And i remember perfectly you guys saying upon his fight with mayweather the ref didn't let Hatton "fight his fight". What gives? not a fan of the dirty style anymore?
    How about Froch who intentionally has he would later admit, hit Dirrell in the back of the head repeatedly and got away with a BS decision after Dirrell boxed his ears off? Then you were ok with the "style" of the cobra right?

    this is some people being jealous because a 25 year old with only 20 pro fights beat a much more experienced, thought to be the best of the super 6 world champion in Kessler.
    I like Kessler fans but these guys aren't Kessler fans these are KKK groupies with an internet agenda They are canadian and american too, not european. talking about the carnivores and such of these forums not you homie.

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    • K-Nan
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      #42
      Originally posted by Carnivore
      I just re-watched the last part of the fight.

      He definitely should have been disqualified after the last headbutt. It couldn't have been more obvious that he was doing it intentionally, and with the confidence of knowing he wouldn't be disqualified.

      And if he's a devout Christian, why did he lie and say the headbutts were unintentional? A "Son of God" wouldn't do that.
      Are you kidding? That headbutt was far from blatant. If people were DQ'd on those grounds, guys like B-Hop would have 7 more losses.

      This is boxing, not ballet. Quit your bitching and realize that your man got his ass whooped. The clinching had no effect on the way in which Ward was tagging Kessler in the middle of the ring. Kessler himself is a guy who likes his range. He was just getting beat at his own game, and then some.

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      • K-Nan
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        #43
        Originally posted by revs1227
        yeah shoulda dq his ass
        Coming from the Hatton fan. Lol...

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        • DeadlyWeapon
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          #44
          Lol

          Originally posted by victoriabeckham
          i agree with tunney.

          Ward isn't the goat.

          He's the billy goat!!!!
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          • DeadlyWeapon
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            #45
            Yes I thought the same.

            Originally posted by Smokin'J
            reminds me of evander holyfield

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            • BarrySlisk
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              #46
              If the headbutts were not intentional then Ward is simply an idiot who cannot control his body. He does look a bit dumb. And he belives in God which confirms it.

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              • The Hammer
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                #47
                Originally posted by revs1227
                yeah shoulda dq his ass
                Most definitely.

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                • dans
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                  #48
                  A lot of Kessler fans are looking for excuses why Kessler was outclassed and owned.

                  Even if the headbutts were intentional, which I don't think, Kessler got shutout and embarrassed. It's not Ward's job to deduct points, he's in there to win.

                  On a side note, Kessler was utterly classless after the fight.

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #49
                    Having Jack Reiss work the fight was in violation of the Super Six contract:

                    from yahoo sports:

                    OAKLAND, Calif. – New WBA super middleweight world champion Andre Ward has become embroiled in a bitter rift between rival promoters that could impact the future of the Super Six World Boxing Classic.

                    Ward, who defeated Mikkel Kessler here Saturday night, may be denied the opportunity to fight in his home city of Oakland later in the competition after German promoter Wilfried Sauerland, who represents the interests of Kessler and Arthur Abraham, revealed that he would refuse to bring his boxers to California in the future.

                    This stance stems from a bitter dispute regarding the naming of Californian Jack Reiss as the referee for Ward’s unanimous technical decision victory over Kessler – a choice enforced by the California State Athletic Commission.

                    Sauerland claimed that Reiss’ appointment was contrary to the Super Six tournament regulations drawn up in conjunction with organizer Showtime, which stipulates a requirement for neutral officials and judges.

                    “I have another fighter, Arthur Abraham, who could also come up against Ward,” Sauerland told Yahoo! Sports. “I would never bring him to California, for 100 percent not.

                    “Why should we come to a place where there is a commission who says the referee has to come from there? We protested but there is no chance, so we have to go in the future to states where they also allow neutral referees.”

                    Sauerland said the promoters have contracts stipulating that the fights need to be refereed by neutral officials and that the issue could have caused “a big fuss” and the cancellation of the fight.

                    “I don’t think it helps in this case, but our fellow promoters on this know now what is happening,” he said. “Andre Ward is the only one who has three home fights, the other guys all have to travel. So I think there will be a lot of attention on this in the future.”

                    Ward was crowned WBA champion when the contest went to the judges’ scorecards, with the fight being stopped in the 11th round due to cuts on Kessler’s face caused by an accidental headbutt. Two judges scored it 98-92 to the American, a third ruling 97-93.

                    Ward’s promoter, Dan Goossen, has ambitious plans for his fighter that involve tapping into the his strong support base in the Bay Area, where more than 10,000 showed up to the Oracle Arena to see him defeat Kessler.

                    With Saturday’s spectacular display likely to have dramatically increased Ward’s support, Goossen even floated the possibility that if Ward qualified for the final of the Super Six, the championship bout could be held outdoors at the Oakland Coliseum.

                    However, if Sauerland and the other Super Six promoters refuse to agree to bouts in California from the semifinal stage onward, it could create severe friction and a potential stalemate.

                    Ward’s next two fights are scheduled to be against fellow Americans Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell, with both set to be held in Oakland. However, Taylor and Dirrell are widely considered to be the boxers most likely to be eliminated when the six-man field is cut to four after the round-robin stage.

                    That would mean there is a strong likelihood of Ward being paired up with either Abraham or Kessler in a semifinal bout. England’s Carl Froch is another potential opponent, and Froch’s promoter, Mick Hennessy, would need little encouragement in pushing for a home fight in Nottingham, England, rather than a trip to the U.S.

                    Given the strength of conviction held by both Sauerland and Goossen, discussions could reasonably be expected to become mired in a stalemate, as neither promoter would be keen on giving up home advantage and the associated spinoffs.
                    Last edited by The Hammer; 11-23-2009, 09:02 AM.

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                    • COACH WEBB
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                      #50
                      Ward won the fight EASILY. WIthout the headbutts Kess had NO CHANCE of winning the fight. He didn't even throw punches. He followed Ward and got tagged and about the 3rd round, Ward turned it up and did whatever he wanted to. A UNBIAS person watching the fight AND the replays can see that those headbutts were not intentional. I believe one of the headbutts occurred while Ward was in the southpaw stance. Anyone that follows boxing knows that headbutts tend to happen when a southpaw fights an orthodox fighter.

                      But besides all of thee above, no one gets ANY credit on this trash forum. But we have a bunch of boxing "fans" here....

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