PACQUIAO alone sold 1.6+ mill PPV. MAYWEATHER with dance partner JMM only 1 mill!

[Benny Leonard]

Benny Leonard who was the no.1 P4P before Manny became the no.1 P4P?

So you would like to compare the pass ppv of Manny before becoming no. 1 p4p to Floyd ppv being the no.1 p4p at that time?

By the way Ben I do agree with the 50/50 split.

Answer: Floyd.


And what does P4P really mean in Promotion? It doesn't mean much. Tyson was still Tyson without P4P and so was Oscar.

It's all about who is willling to pay to see you. And of course, who you are fighting.

Maybe Pac has finally gotten to a point that he can fight a lesser known opponent now and still do well but I doubt they even take that chance to test it. Cotto was picked for a reason: Big Fan base that is willing to pay for PPV.

There are people that will buy it because of Pac...others because of Cotto...and the rest because they look at the two names and think it is a great, historical matchup that will be action-packed.

Floyd's fight was a bit of a joke and the only thing he had going for him was that he was returning. If he had fought Cotto, at least some would jump to it because they would feel Cotto has a chance to take his "O" which is a selling point for Floyd.

[dans]

Did we say that it was only Manny who sell the ppv? Perhaps your saying it was Floyd who just said that he was the one who sold the ppv on JMM-FMJ fight.

When Floyd did fight Judah and Berto, who was the reigning P4P at that time? If Manny fights Judah and Berto right now I'm sure he will surpass Floyd ppv.

Ummm, the title of the thread is "PACQUIAO alone sold 1.6+ PPV. Mayweather with dance partner JMM only 1 mil".

Juan Manuel Marquez really doesn't have many hardcore fans, he has a lot of admirers, but not really a lot of fans.

His 100K PPV with Casamayor prove he can't pull numbers on his own. If Pacquiao or Mayweather (I know, wrong weight division) fought Casamayor at the same time, it would've done much better.

[PAKYO]

Im sure if Mayweather fought Cotto then the numbers would be similar. What were the ppv numbers for Pac vs Marquez II ?

I'm not sure about that as i for one is put off already paying for floyd figths anymore.

So you can subtract one already and multiply it to casual fans.

[alexpz]

Dude, you are acting like i'm knocking pacquiao. I'm not !!! Just giving Cotto credit. Also, don't care about Floyd.

I think we Pacquaio fans are giving Cotto lots of credit for the success of Nov 14 fight.

How about you guys did you guys give JMM credit? If yes then why didn't you bash on Floyd when he says he was the only one who sold the ppv on JMM-FMJ fight. What were you thinking when he said that?

Come on man lets be real. I respect Floyd and thats for sure. But I just wonder why some of you Floyd fans are discrediting Manny's achievement.

[rob6465]

Answer: Floyd.


And what does P4P really mean in Promotion? It doesn't mean much. Tyson was still Tyson without P4P and so was Oscar.

It's all about who is willling to pay to see you. And of course, who you are fighting.

Maybe Pac has finally gotten to a point that he can fight a lesser known opponent now and still do well but I doubt they even take that chance to test it. Cotto was picked for a reason: Big Fan base that is willing to pay for PPV.
There are people that will buy it because of Pac...others because of Cotto...and the rest because they look at the two names and think it is a great, historical matchup that will be action-packed.

Floyd's fight was a bit of a joke and the only think he had going for him was that he was returning.

True, the reason me and family, friends purchased PPV was because of Cotto. The matchup was interesting but i don't see myself or friends purchasing a Pac vs Mosley or Pac vs Floyd or Mosley vs Floyd. I will pay to see a Cotto vs Mosley rematch. I'm not saying all my friends and family are like that, just speaking for myself.

[Roger Mellie]

Answer: Floyd.


And what does P4P really mean in Promotion? It doesn't mean much. Tyson was still Tyson without P4P and so was Oscar.

It's all about who is willling to pay to see you. And of course, who you are fighting.

Maybe Pac has finally gotten to a point that he can fight a lesser known opponent now and still do well but I doubt they even take that chance to test it. Cotto was picked for a reason: Big Fan base that is willing to pay for PPV.

There are people that will buy it because of Pac...others because of Cotto...and the rest because they look at the two names and think it is a great, historical matchup that will be action-packed.

Floyd's fight was a bit of a joke and the only thing he had going for him was that he was returning. If he had fought Cotto, at least some would jump to it because they would feel Cotto has a chance to take his "O" which is a selling point for Floyd.

I agree with you about this,and unless Floyd fight a really big name next,then I wouldnt be surprised to see a significant drop in Floyds ppv.

[TyrantT316]

Mayweather had the technically sound Mexican counter puncher.

Manny had the thudding, exciting, and vulnerable Puerto Rican star with a major following.

[baracuda]

no....pac and cotto did.......

[alexpz]

Answer: Floyd.


And what does P4P really mean in Promotion? It doesn't mean much. Tyson was still Tyson without P4P and so was Oscar.

It's all about who is willling to pay to see you. And of course, who you are fighting.

Maybe Pac has finally gotten to a point that he can fight a lesser known opponent now and still do well but I doubt they even take that chance to test it. Cotto was picked for a reason: Big Fan base that is willing to pay for PPV.

There are people that will buy it because of Pac...others because of Cotto...and the rest because they look at the two names and think it is a great, historical matchup that will be action-packed.

Floyd's fight was a bit of a joke and the only thing he had going for him was that he was returning. If he had fought Cotto, at least some would jump to it because they would feel Cotto has a chance to take his "O" which is a selling point for Floyd.

Thanks for you for props to Manny.

To tell you honestly Benny Floyd can sell a fight right now that's because of his achievements and having no defeat.

But recently we just know that Manny can also sell a fight and ofcourse with the help of Cotto. Hopefully we all Floyd or Manny or every boxers fan could give credit to Manny for what he has achieve.

[dans]

I think we Pacquaio fans are giving Cotto lots of credit for the success of Nov 14 fight.

How about you guys did you guys give JMM credit? If yes then why didn't you bash on Floyd when he says he was the only one who sold the ppv on JMM-FMJ fight. What were you thinking when he said that?

Come on man lets be real. I respect Floyd and thats for sure. But I just wonder why some of you Floyd fans are discrediting Manny's achievement.

Who said anything about discrediting Manny?

Both Floyd and Manny are huge draws. Depending on who they're fighting, and the significance of the fight, one can out draw the other.

And to answer on JMM. He's just not a huge draw, like a Cotto. He's a known great fighter that people admire. He makes a good dance partner as you say, but by no means is he a huge draw.