Should "catchweights" be allowed?

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  • JulVal
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    #11
    Originally posted by TheGreatShark
    Yeah, where the lesser of the two fighters is already coming in losing the fight.
    I don't know man. 1 pounds isn't that hard to lose. Cotto was looking great against Clottey with a gashing eye. Cotto looked good at 145 and was the fastest I think he's ever been. He was fast and that's for sure.

    Oh and it was Cotto's own personal choice to get into a lighter weight to be of match with Pac's speed. He did it against other fast boxers too I think..

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    • apokalips
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      #12
      Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
      I dont like it at all but they can allow it as long as it doesnt involve title fights, The Pac-Cotto WBO belt at a restricted 145 shouldnt have been sanctioned by the boxing organisation IMHO.
      I wholeheartedly agree. I weren't happy that Cotto had to put his belt up while not allowed to come in at the usual limit. Title fights should NEVER be allowed at a catchweight but these organisations are so greedy they want a piece of that pie.

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      • JCaster
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        #13
        Originally posted by TheGreatShark
        Looking fine and performing at 100% are two different things.

        And if he didn't sign everyone and their mom would've said Cotto was ducking Pacquiao.
        well do you think cotto was 100% @ 146 against clottey?

        i think 145 against pacquiao improved his speed. If he fought that fight like the ones he fought over 145 lbs, I dont think he will survive the 12 rounds.

        IMO, those jabs and punches that were hitting pacquiao in the early rounds were really fast.

        I think if cotto will fight again he will weigh @ 145 in his next fight. he looks better and faster.

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        • Puntoyhauf
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          #14
          I am against catchweights...

          But it serves as a bridge to put 2 great fighters of different weight divisions in making the fight possible.

          Pac vs Cotto is a great example of that, of course you really did want to see a match between Cotto and Pac, did'nt you?

          a 140 champ vs a 147 champ... is it fair for Cotto to come and challenge Pac as the 140 champ? is it fair for Pac to come up to 147 and challenge Cotto?

          For others who do not know... 141-147lbs is welterweight.. that is why they often say "THE 147 LIMIT"

          Any welterweight fighter may choose to weight less than 147lbs, it depends on their gameplan.

          As I keep saying, Cotto does not need to comply at a catchweight. I like the fight to be at 147lbs. But Cotto has a gameplan. You heard him said "I TRAINED FOR SPEED"

          If the gameplan is to out-muscle Pac, Cotto would have hydrated like he hydrated against Clottey, but Cotto knows about Pacquiao's speed and he needs to match it as nearly as possible, otherwise he'd be a big slow moving target for Pacquiao to batter all night.

          Cotto is a great warrior, a true gentleman of the sport. I wish there are more Cottos and Paquiaos in boxing who just want to give the fans what is expected of them to be seen.
          Last edited by Puntoyhauf; 11-18-2009, 07:40 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JCaster
            well do you think cotto was 100% @ 146 against clottey?

            i think 145 against pacquiao improved his speed. If he fought that fight like the ones he fought over 145 lbs, I dont think he will survive the 12 rounds.

            IMO, those jabs and punches that were hitting pacquiao in the early rounds were really fast.

            I think if cotto will fight again he will weigh @ 145 in his next fight. he looks better and faster.
            I agree, that's what I keep saying at round 1. I was telling the folks around me that damn! Cotto is proving that he can be as fast and time Pac up real good. Too bad he didn't stick to 'that' game plan and got caught in an exchange with Pacquiao.

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            • Puntoyhauf
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              #16
              I would love to see Calderon verson Valuev... no catchweights!

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              • Puntoyhauf
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                #17
                Originally posted by JulVal
                I agree, that's what I keep saying at round 1. I was telling the folks around me that damn! Cotto is proving that he can be as fast and time Pac up real good. Too bad he didn't stick to 'that' game plan and got caught in an exchange with Pacquiao.
                not that he did not follow the gameplan.

                the main reason is that Cotto can't hurt Manny, and Manny can hurt Cotto with punches Cotto can't see.

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                • el_critz
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                  #18
                  for pac to win in WW,yes.....

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                  • JulVal
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Puntoyhauf
                    not that he did not follow the gameplan.

                    the main reason is that Cotto can't hurt Manny, and Manny can hurt Cotto with punches Cotto can't see.
                    Yeah possibly, another factor could be that their gameplan might have been all wrong.. Remember Santiago telling Cotto to be aggressive because he is the bigger man? So basically, they didn't stick to boxing and instead, as stated by Santiago(perhaps), engaged Pac in a slug fest which led to that beat up.

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                    • The Great Shark
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                      #20
                      The only reason its put in place is because it creates an advantage.

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