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  • BOX-A-LOT
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    #31
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    Jesus dude, relax with that ****...........

    Tito was not Ernie Shavers, Julian Jackson, Chapo Rosario or Ruben Olivares.
    Maybe not, but he could put combinations together better than any of those cats. Far more accurate too.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dknight
      Manny got hit quite a few times when he was caught off guard. But blind Pacfans don't want to admit it and only say he let himself be hit. The times it seemed he wanted to get hit, it was more of a pride thing to shove off the impression of the hits that really landed unexpectedly. Seriously, nothing worse than an extreme Pacman fan. Just borderline fanatism, refusing to see anything that's not positive about Manny. You guys are the worst.

      I'm not a blind Pacfan, never have been. I thought it was going to be a very tough fight for Manny. I bet for Pac but I didn't buy into all the nonsense that Manny was going to walk through Cotto. Well I was wrong and I don't think most of you understand what happened on Saturday night. It was historic and we are witnessing greatness. Pac started his career at 106lbs, I don't care how old he was, he shouldn't be doing what he's doing to natural WW. Pac has won me over because the man is great, there's no other word to describe it. I see him and I see the same greatness I seen in Ray Leonard, Duran and Chavez, he's on that level.

      Originally posted by BOX-A-LOT
      Maybe not, but he could put combinations together better than any of those cats. Far more accurate too.
      You lost all credibility.........

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      • Young Herschel
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        #33
        Tito was 5'11 and cut to 147. He did not have the boxing ability of Cotto but his natural height and reach advantages would likely deter Roach from supporting this fight. Unless Roach knew that Tito had vastly outgrown the welterweight division and had to kill himself to make 147 there is no way this fight gets made.

        Pacquaio could definitely give Tito problems though because his defense is very underated today . . . all people talk about are his knockouts but what of his elusiveness and agility which complement his blisterin combos?

        Tito would have serious problems with Pacquiao's overall quickness and boundless energy . . . but with Tito's high-pressure offense Pacquaio would struggle to find spots from which to fire back and upwards at that monster which was 1995 Felix Trinidad,Jr.

        Pacquiao would be overwhlemed by the ninth round but would score a flash knockdown in the second round against the notoriously slow-starting Trinidad.

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        • JMM_135_#1
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          #34
          you mean taxi driver fighting chavez ?

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          • Cuauhtémoc1520
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            #35
            Originally posted by JMM_135_#1
            you mean taxi driver fighting chavez ?
            Second person to lose credibility. Go watch some boxing, get past 35 years of age and then come talk to me....

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            • JMM_135_#1
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              #36
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
              Second person to lose credibility. Go watch some boxing, get past 35 years of age and then come talk to me....
              hahahaha, so because you older you know more... thats why your picking pac to beat a man who was a force of nature at 147, fought big names at 160 and stopped them.... i see

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              • Dknight
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                #37
                Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                I'm not a blind Pacfan, never have been. I thought it was going to be a very tough fight for Manny. I bet for Pac but I didn't buy into all the nonsense that Manny was going to walk through Cotto. Well I was wrong and I don't think most of you understand what happened on Saturday night. It was historic and we are witnessing greatness. Pac started his career at 106lbs, I don't care how old he was, he shouldn't be doing what he's doing to natural WW. Pac has won me over because the man is great, there's no other word to describe it. I see him and I see the same greatness I seen in Ray Leonard, Duran and Chavez, he's on that level.



                You lost all credibility.........
                I agree on the part that Pac shouldn't have beat Cotto like that. I mean the first 5 rounds were good to watch, but after the 6th it was already decided. No way in hell Manny should bee backing Cotto up like that. No excuses for that. Cotto should have done things differently, but didn't. He was in top shape and had the capacity to do it.

                I disagree with the rest. He's getting up there, though. If he beats Mayweather I'd put him among the top ATGs, maybe even top ten.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JMM_135_#1
                  hahahaha, so because you older you know more... thats why your picking pac to beat a man who was a force of nature at 147, fought big names at 160 and stopped them.... i see
                  If you read my posts, I just said I'm not picking against Pac unless it's against an ATG. Tito was very good, not great.

                  Manny finds a way to win. Everyone was saying the same exact thing you are saying about Tito. That Cotto was too big, Manny couldn't take his power etc etc.

                  Did you see Manny take Cotto's shots and smile? Was that just me seeing that or did it really happen. Manny looked like a ravenous pit bull eating raw meat on Saturday night. He is so erkie-jerky in his style, he hits from angles that can't be seen. He has so much power in both hands and his speed is probably unmatched in boxing today.

                  Like I said before...

                  I'm not saying Tito can't win this fight, I'm just picking Manny....is that ok with you?

                  thanks.

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                  • jimmykaba
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                    #39
                    old champs cannot be defeated

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                    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dknight
                      I agree on the part that Pac shouldn't have beat Cotto like that. I mean the first 5 rounds were good to watch, but after the 6th it was already decided. No way in hell Manny should bee backing Cotto up like that. No excuses for that. Cotto should have done things differently, but didn't. He was in top shape and had the capacity to do it.

                      I disagree with the rest. He's getting up there, though. If he beats Mayweather I'd put him among the top ATGs, maybe even top ten.
                      It was competitive the first 2 rounds.....that was it.

                      Cotto landed some good shots throughout the fight but Manny was hitting him with combo's at will after the 2nd round. As a matter of fact, it was in the 3rd round that I saw the killer in Manny and it was over from then on.

                      Manny is already an ATG and a HOF. I'm not Filipino, I'm not a fan of Manny, I just don't let my emotions get in the way of what I have witnessed. This man is incredible in what he's accomplished. He DESTROYED a top WW that beat Shane Mosley, Judah, Clottey, Quintana, Malinaggi, Randal Bailey (serious puncher) etc.

                      Manny should not be competitive with Cotto, sorry but he shouldn't be. This would be like Barrera beating Super Middle Weights....
                      Last edited by Cuauhtémoc1520; 11-17-2009, 03:21 PM.

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