How is Floyd going to win with his current style?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #21
    I believe Floyd can frusterate Pacman fighting in his current style. Manny is a great fighter but he wants to fight if you do not oblige him he will begin to get frusterated especially if Floyd is pecking away at him with jabs and straight rights. Getting hit and not really being able to land or really do anything about it is a very frusterating situation, as frusteration build it leads to mistakes, mistakes just lead to more oppurtunities.

    It is a downward spiral that once you get caught in is very hard to escape. Fighting as he does now is one of the best ways to beat a fighter like Manny (IMO).

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    • Bhopreign
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      #22
      Floyd has the perfect style for Pacquaio. Ive been saying since yesterday to everyone, just go and watch what made Marquez sucessful in his fight with Pacquaio, its easy to see. Marquez takes a step back when Pac comes forward, that messed Pac up the whole fight, when Pac throws Marquez steps back and counters sometimes he drops the right hand and it landed almost every time in the second fight. Those are things Floyd does naturally, it will be a lull lopsided affair, Pac will miss a whold lot and made to look non all time greatish.

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      • MANGLER
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        #23
        Mr boat buyer can win by counterin Pac's aggression. Simple as that. Maybe by points, maybe he drops him comin in.

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          #24
          Originally posted by president
          You know why Mayweather did not want to fight either Mosley, Pwill, or Cotto? Not because these guys are fast, but because they are incredible pressure fighters. If there's one thing that PBF hates more than getting hit, it is facing constant and dangerous pressure.
          Prediction: Pacman TKO PBF in 11
          Since when did Mosley and P. Will become PRESSURE fighters?

          ...Paul couldn't pressure Quintana for his life in there first fight...Paul fights in the center of the ring...

          And Shane is a bit of a brawler with fast hands and some skills...and a solid chin

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Floyd has the perfect style for Pacquaio. Ive been saying since yesterday to everyone, just go and watch what made Marquez sucessful in his fight with Pacquaio, its easy to see. Marquez takes a step back when Pac comes forward, that messed Pac up the whole fight, when Pac throws Marquez steps back and counters sometimes he drops the right hand and it landed almost every time in the second fight. Those are things Floyd does naturally, it will be a lull lopsided affair, Pac will miss a whold lot and made to look non all time greatish.
            jeez man, if you watched the cotto fight properly you'll see that's exactly what cotto was trying to do before getting knocked down for a second time.

            pacquiao went in with a little flurry on his way out cotto followed to counter and manny countered his counter.

            manny's improved

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              I don't think he can pot shot for 12 rounds and win, he will have to mix it up but he will only do it a handful of times throughout the fight when he feels he has some momentum going.


              I definitely thought there were more than a handful of stretches where Cotto was able to handle Pac with a solid jab and nothing else. He was able to push Pac back with it but he wasn't disciplined enough nor was he satisfied to sit back and fight conservative round after round.

              Mayweather doesn't care if it is boring, he will do what Cotto did in the 1st round and he will do it all night without ever mixing it up and getting himself caught like Cotto did in the 2nd and 4th rounds.
              Manny's not going to just stay on the outside and be outboxed. Floyd would have to hurt him and thats not easy to do. If Pac lands he would have no problem at all hurting Floyd.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                I still question it.
                Of course I know I'm some guy behind a computer and don't have the mind of Floyd with boxing...but...what are others seeing that Freddie may be seeing as well?

                But how is he going to beat Pac?




                I look at what he did against JMM and other fights at 147+ and wonder...so?

                JMM is a counter-puncher....not an aggressor. Not even that fast. Style-wise and ability, JMM was never going to beat Floyd no matter what weight-divsion or time off.

                Ricky Hatton: Prefers to wrestle than punch...thought he could bully Floyd...and was actually allowed into the fight because Floyd just takes off rounds and wasn't jabbing (let alone throwing enough). Now I understand strategy can be too slowly break down a fighter, let the opponent tire himself out a bit before you up the pace...but when did Floyd do that below 147?

                Oscar: Despite not landing as cleanly as some like to think, it was close with the score-cards because Oscar was more active than Floyd. If Floyd would have jabbed, use more combos, moved and hit like he did with Chico...maybe a much easier fight and not close on the score-cards. Although maybe more risk....not sure.

                Judah: was in the fight for about half but Judah is also known to sometimes have his problems as the fight goes on.

                Mitchell: at 147 but it was also his first fight at 147 and was out to prove he could fight at 147 although we should point out this is the same Mitchell that had moved up to 147 from 140 and was destroyed by Tszyu prior.


                Not only do I not see the same Floyd but I haven't been entertained by Floyd since his move up to 147...which is also attributed to his style.
                It will be a close fight, but just to say something in short... I very much doubt that Floyd will stand infront of Pacquiao and trade with him like Cotto did, when Cotto was actually moving Pacquiao didn't do that much, Floyd is much better at this than Cotto, better defensively and is a better counter puncher.

                Yet again, Pacquiao might just overwhelm Floyd with punches in bunches... that's why I wanna see this fight, it will be a close one.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix
                  jeez man, if you watched the cotto fight properly you'll see that's exactly what cotto was trying to do before getting knocked down for a second time.

                  pacquiao went in with a little flurry on his way out cotto followed to counter and manny countered his counter.

                  manny's improved
                  Cotto isnt Marquez, I didnt see Cotto do anything that Marquez does.

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                    #29
                    one punch at a time aint gonna cut it...and floyd's assed out if his punches dont command PAC's respect


                    its the $65ppv question (yes, that's how much i paid on saturday-pre tax)

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                      #30
                      People don't realize that Pacquiao won't fight Floyd with the exact same style as he did with Cotto. Floyd is not unbeatable. I see flaws in his style all the time.

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