Manny is an all time great, respect to Cotto.

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  • rob6465
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    #11
    Originally posted by chicano79us
    I'll admit. I have given Pac a lot of **** for not fighting a good prime fighter. Booooooyyyy did he shut me up. Not only did he beat a prime fighter...but a WW who I considered the best in the division.
    YOU???? I'm still in shock. I mocked hatton/oscar for losing the way they did but i cannot do it anymore. Oscar/hatton were just overmatched. Now i believe it was not weight draining that oscar suffered, it was pacquio's CRAZY speed.

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      #12
      Originally posted by CrackYourJaw
      Manny's a ****in' pitbull, plus he's on some sadomasochistic ****, laughing during the fight. The man is a force to be reckoned with, and if Mayweather thinks the fight will be easy, he is horribly mistaken.
      For the record, I think Mayweather beats Manny because of styles. I think Mayweather is an excellent counter puncher just like JMM but faster and with more power.

      Manny beating Floyd would not shock me though, I can't put anything past Manny at this point and time...he's a ***in beast.

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        #13
        Originally posted by rob6465
        YOU???? I'm still in shock. I mocked hatton/oscar for losing the way they did but i cannot do it anymore. Oscar/hatton were just overmatched. Now i believe it was not weight draining that oscar suffered, it was pacquio's CRAZY speed.
        Well in defense of Oscar, that wasn't a prime Oscar Manny fought and even Roach said that. He said that was one of the deciding reasons they took the fight.

        Cotto on the other hand was in his prime, had 4 months to train and looked to be in phenomenal shape.

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        • CrackYourJaw
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          #14
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
          For the record, I think Mayweather beats Manny because of styles. I think Mayweather is an excellent counter puncher just like JMM but faster and with more power.

          Manny beating Floyd would not shock me though, I can't put anything past Manny at this point and time...he's a ***in beast.
          Don't get me wrong, I think it's an even fight. But it's not gonna be easy for either man.

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            #15
            Originally posted by CrackYourJaw
            Don't get me wrong, I think it's an even fight. But it's not gonna be easy for either man.
            Not to be cliche' but styles do make fights and Floyd I think has the style and physical ability to beat Manny.

            Manny is an aggressive fighter that comes forward. Floyd is an excellent counter puncher with better natural ability than JMM, a fighter that I thought beat Manny twice.

            I think it's a tough fight but Floyd beats Manny IMO.

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              #16
              I had Marquez beating Pacquiao, too. At least in the second fight. I never scored the first. But Pacquiao's gotten so much better since then, at least it seems that way. Tough, pick 'em fight. Should be 50/50. Let's hope it gets made.

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                #17
                Hats off to Cotto for sticking around after the fight and getting interviewed. He didnt leave the ring right away, he showed class and respect. He knows that Manny is really a likable person who doesnt talk **** about his opponents and has class himself. Good luck to Cotto !!!!

                Good post TS !!!!!1

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                  #18
                  It's scary how Manny somehow tries to hide that evil look going into his corner while smiling.

                  Every fighter knows Manny's strengths and weaknesses, yet he still manages to one up them in every fight. I don't buy any of their claims that they underestimated Manny. It's just his natural ability to get better when the going gets tougher. Proof that he is mentally superior to all fighters.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                    Besides all the BS threads and **** talking let's get down to the truth about this fight and these two fighters.

                    First off, much respect to Miguel Angel Cotto for showing class and heart in a lopsided fight. I always liked Cotto because he's always shown humility and class no matter what the situation. He fought hard and smart early on but as I predicted, speed would be too much for him.

                    Manny's foot speed was incredible in this fight. I was also shocked to see how Manny stood right in front of Cotto and took his shots like it was nothing. Pac is about as a complete fighter as I have ever seen. He's better than Henry Armstrong, he's in that class and he's an ATG.

                    Whether you want to argue he's a 7 division champ or a 5 division champ, it doesn't matter. For a guy who started his career at 106lbs and now is fighting at WW and just destroyed on of the best WW out there, incredible.

                    Filipinos should be proud of Manny because he will go down as one of the greatest boxers to ever lace up the gloves. His accomplishments are incredible when you really think about them and he is the greatest fighter of our generation.

                    Puerto Ricans should be proud as well because Miguel Cotto is a warrior and stood and took a beating at the hands of a great fighter. I respect Cotto more now than I ever have. He's all class and he talks the talk and walks the walk.

                    It's easy to hand pick opponents and avoid fighters who aren't a good "match up" for you. Instead Manny and Miguel gave the boxing world what they wanted to see. This is the reason Manny is the best fighter of our generation and why I have gained even more respect for Cotto.




                    You've been preaching for months here that we should enjoy the moment because we are witnessing a making of an ATG, and you were right!

                    For what it's worth, I gave Pacman a B+ overall for this fight. His distractions from his training camp showed when he was forced to take breathers just to catch his breath and buy some time to plan his next offensive on Cotto. He sacrificed some of his speed (for more power) and his elusiveness just to draw Cotto out to a gunfight knowing fully well that he can take Cotto's best punches. Pacman took huge shots from Cotto; uppercuts, hooks, Cotto vaunted body shots, name it, he took it. Manny just shrugged off Cotto's best shots like it was just a puny bee buzzing around his face and kept coming at Cotto.

                    I've been watching Manny for quite a while now since his "Blow-by-Blow" days more than 13 years ago, and I didn't imagine he'll get to this. Now I really believe you can decide your own fate, Pacquiao chose to be great, he's almost there...

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                    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by gopi11
                      You've been preaching for months here that we should enjoy the moment because we are witnessing a making of an ATG, and you were right!

                      For what it's worth, I gave Pacman a B+ overall for this fight. His distractions from his training camp showed when he was forced to take breathers just to catch his breath and buy some time to plan his next offensive on Cotto. He sacrificed some of his speed (for more power) and his elusiveness just to draw Cotto out to a gunfight knowing fully well that he can take Cotto's best punches. Pacman took huge shots from Cotto; uppercuts, hooks, Cotto vaunted body shots, name it, he took it. Manny just shrugged off Cotto's best shots like it was just a puny bee buzzing around his face and kept coming at Cotto.

                      I've been watching Manny for quite a while now since his "Blow-by-Blow" days more than 13 years ago, and I didn't imagine he'll get to this. Now I really believe you can decide your own fate, Pacquiao chose to be great, he's almost there...
                      Thanks for acknowledging the fact I have been saying that.

                      I don't think Manny's almost there, he is there and then some. When you consider the weight he came from, the quality of fighters he has beaten and the fact that he might not have even peaked just yet, it's incredible and scary at the same time.

                      You might think I'm overacting but I think Manny has the chance to become the greatest fighter pound4pound ever.

                      IF he can beat Mayweather, you have to put him in that discussion.

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