At this point, Floyd needs Pac more than Pac needs Floyd.

[DLT]

Yes they both need it...Pacman will always have that "Pac never fought a great slick boxer and beat up on old greats, limited mexican/british fighters, etc...Just as Floyd needs it as he will always be remembered for not fighting the best welterweights

But keep in mind that Pacman has already built a legacy at the smaller weights vs Marquez, Barrera and Morales....we can always make a case for AND against any fighter's resume in history...fact is that Marquez was a nightmare for Pac, but Pac found a way to win. Pac was supposed to be fodder and in over his head vs Barrera. Pac lost to Morales which showed some of Morales's worth at the time.

Either way, it is a great fight that both men need. But my point is that Floyd's not 100% in the driver's seat as he may want to be. Both sides have leverage.

In this economy and general world state, I bet there are billions of people from all countries willing to take 50% of a lot of millions of dollars...yet alone a bonus to the winner by knockout

alot of people also have Floyd ranked as the best SFW of all time so its not like he has no legacy at the lower weights. I know what you are saying and in some ways its true because people hate Floyd and love Pac but in reality its not and Floyd still has one thing that Pac doesnt have and thats an undefeated record. People can say what they want about opponents but the reason why Floyd is so hated is beause he is undefeated and they want to see someone take it from him. If Pac never tries to do it then they will give him a big asterix for that

[Bruz Li Baggin]

Since Floyd's not an ATG, if Pac beats him, it means NOTHING right?

Nothing at all...Floyd's just a cowardly bum...

you hit right on the head dude...floyd won't fight pac...he scared the hell out of him after pac pounded and stood toe to toe with miguel.

slick duck don't do that...they run wagging their ass doing the quack quack!

[Bruz Li Baggin]

alot of people also have Floyd ranked as the best SFW of all time so its not like he has no legacy at the lower weights. I know what you are saying and in some ways its true because people hate Floyd and love Pac but in reality its not and Floyd still has one thing that Pac doesnt have and thats an undefeated record. People can say what they want about opponents but the reason why Floyd is so hated is beause he is undefeated and they want to see someone take it from him. If Pac never tries to do it then they will give him a big asterix for that

here's the equation...

(ducking + cherry picking ) x undefeated
_____________________________________ = floyd gayweather
money

[joartcc5]

here's the equation...

(ducking + cherry picking ) x undefeated
_____________________________________ = floyd gayweather
money

That's gayweather for u.

I bet he's still scratching his head figuring out what's the diagram ur showing.

[Ray*]

Yep, Mayweather does indeed need Pac IMHO.

[Walt Liquor]

And that's coming from a big Mayweather fan. I've been a fan of his skills like a lot for a long time.

But Pacman is proving too much vs old Mayweather foes (Hatton, DLH) in more impressive fashion

He's eclipsed Mayweather in the "I've won 5 titles in 5 weight classes" argument

He has a bigger list of HOFers and "names" on his record

He's the bigger draw and something Floyd hasn't allowed himself to be, likeable

He's considered (and rightfully so) the #1 P4P fighter in the world
He's embarrassing and stopping jr welters and welterweights

And he's doing it all with a crowd pleasing style.

stop ruining the rep of Floyd fans. You are being classy and dignified and writing the truth. Completly anti-floydstan behavior. If you were part of the mafia, prepare to be blacklisted. Excellent post and props to you.

[Walt Liquor]

alot of people also have Floyd ranked as the best SFW of all time so its not like he has no legacy at the lower weights. I know what you are saying and in some ways its true because people hate Floyd and love Pac but in reality its not and Floyd still has one thing that Pac doesnt have and thats an undefeated record. People can say what they want about opponents but the reason why Floyd is so hated is beause he is undefeated and they want to see someone take it from him. If Pac never tries to do it then they will give him a big asterix for that

you must have Joe calzaghe as your greatest of all time by yur logic.


You should follow another sport, go back to watching dancing with the stars where you belong. Boxing fans like fighters, you wear tutus.

[sycomantz]

how does PBF need Manny but everyone keeps asking Manny to fight PBF...but Manny wont call floyd out.

Cotto and pac were fighting for a shot at Floyd. not the other way around.

they were the two climbing the mountain to get to the throne where Mayweaather sits.

Pac has to fight floyd, People know pac cant beat floyd

[mnbv]

And that's coming from a big Mayweather fan. I've been a fan of his skills like a lot for a long time.

But Pacman is proving too much vs old Mayweather foes (Hatton, DLH) in more impressive fashion

He's eclipsed Mayweather in the "I've won 5 titles in 5 weight classes" argument

He has a bigger list of HOFers and "names" on his record

He's the bigger draw and something Floyd hasn't allowed himself to be, likeable

He's considered (and rightfully so) the #1 P4P fighter in the world

He's embarrassing and stopping jr welters and welterweights

And he's doing it all with a crowd pleasing style.

i agree,

[Bruz Li Baggin]

how does PBF need Manny but everyone keeps asking Manny to fight PBF...but Manny wont call floyd out.

Cotto and pac were fighting for a shot at Floyd. not the other way around.

they were the two climbing the mountain to get to the throne where Mayweaather sits.

Pac has to fight floyd, People know pac cant beat floyd

manny can't beat delahoya.

manny can't beat hatton.

manny can't bet cotto.

and now

manny can beat floyd.

i heard that many times. huggers making up a brave front and then what.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

bring them in and let them eat dung!