If Roy Jones Beats Both Hopkins and Dawson...

[street bully]

That's how Calzaghe pretty much became an ATG around here.

In a fight many thought he lost. Ah the stuff of legends. Almost losiing ( and losing in the eyes of some) to a 43 year old past prime fighter. Hopkins and Jones > Calzaghe. No one should even talk about this.

[Toney Loc]

Hopkins was very green at this time though. He was not an all around fighter at the time. Hopkins was still learning his craft. Roy was the more experience guy of the 2 at the time. But, Toney was the man at the time. Toney was probably weak from making the weight. But, That is not Roy fault. So full credit to Roy.

Hopkins still managed to keep it competitive especially toward the later rounds and gave prime Roy his most difficult fight.

[Toney Loc]

In a fight many thought he lost. Ah the stuff of legends. Almost losiing ( and losing in the eyes of some) to a 43 year old past prime fighter. Hopkins and Jones > Calzaghe. No one should even talk about this.

Calzaghe is a good guy, I like him but he is not above Roy or B-Hop in the ATG ranks.

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That's how Calzaghe pretty much became an ATG around here.

Calzaghe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Jones


If Roy fought Calzaghe in his prime then Calz would of KO'd that glass chinned bumhole

[hammerhiem]

That's how Calzaghe pretty much became an ATG around here.

Since when was Calzaghe ATG?

RJJ is low 40's ATG, Calzaghe is mid 80's so not ATG, anything over 50 isn't a genuine ATG imo.

[SplitSecond]

Hopkins was very green at this time though. He was not an all around fighter at the time. Hopkins was still learning his craft. Roy was the more experience guy of the 2 at the time. But, Toney was the man at the time. Toney was probably weak from making the weight. But, That is not Roy fault. So full credit to Roy.

hopkins being green against roy jones is the biggest myth in their careers

[jrosales13]

Who Roy duck that was worth a damn?

I am not going to say Roy ducked fighters. But, he didnt fight Julian Jackson, John David Jackson, there was talks of him fight Terry Norris at a catchweight of 157 that never happened. He didnt' fight Eubanks, Benn, McCllelan, Collins, Liles, Daruisz. He didn't fight a prime Mike McCallum at MW or SMW. He finally fought a 40yr old bodysnatcher at LHW. I am not going to say he ducked. But, we did not see this fights against the best at the time materialize. We just saw James Toney.

[SplitSecond]

I am not going to say Roy ducked fighters. But, he didnt fight Julian Jackson, John David Jackson, there was talks of him fight Terry Norris at a catchweight of 157 that never happened. He didnt' fight Eubanks, Benn, McCllelan, Collins, Liles, Daruisz. He didn't fight a prime Mike McCallum at MW or SMW. He finally fought a 40yr old bodysnatcher at LHW. I am not going to say he ducked. But, we did not see this fights against the best at the time materialize. We just saw James Toney.

hopkins was the best at middleweight at the time, fought him also
dariusz was just a punk so roy decided to clean out the division and michal was left picking on roys leftovers

[jrosales13]

Hopkins still managed to keep it competitive especially toward the later rounds and gave prime Roy his most difficult fight.

Oh thats very true I agree. I thought Roy swept the first 4rds. And, I thought they swept the last 8rds. But, that does not take away from the fact that Hopkins was still green. He was not an all around fighter yet. Hopkins was a late bloomer where he didn't put everything together until like 1999.

[Toney Loc]

Calzaghe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Jones


If Roy fought Calzaghe in his prime then Calz would of KO'd that glass chinned bumhole

When was Roy badly hurt in his prime?

Since when was Calzaghe ATG?

RJJ is low 40's ATG, Calzaghe is mid 80's so not ATG, anything over 50 isn't a genuine ATG imo.

http://boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324286

I am not going to say Roy ducked fighters. But, he didnt fight Julian Jackson, John David Jackson, there was talks of him fight Terry Norris at a catchweight of 157 that never happened. He didnt' fight Eubanks, Benn, McCllelan, Collins, Liles, Daruisz. He didn't fight a prime Mike McCallum at MW or SMW. He finally fought a 40yr old bodysnatcher at LHW. I am not going to say he ducked. But, we did not see this fights against the best at the time materialize. We just saw James Toney.

I don't remember all that except maybe a possible Dariusz fight. Can't see any of those beating Roy.