Every time I've seen Tyson loose, especially in the Douglas and Holyfield fights, it seemed like he could have won if he was tougher mentally-- like he had all the physical attributes and boxing skills that he needed to beat the guys, but once they shut him down for a couple rounds he just gave up. I have no doubt that he could ko Klitschko or Byrd or Ruiz or whoever, if he really trained and got back the focus that he had back in the late 80s. Unfortunately, I just don't think that it's gonna happen-- the guys has just broken down, mentally, and should probably just retire.
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"After all, who would you favor if Tyson were to face the winner of Ruiz/Toney? Because I would have to say Mike would blow them out of the water, with limited trouble."
Depends on who the winner is.
If Ruiz wins, I see him tying up Tyson and preventing him from ever using his power for 12 rounds. He did it with Rahman, who is bigger and stronger than Mike and a much better boxer than Tyson at this stage in his career. In fact Ruiz would have a great chance of going the distance with even a prime Tyson. Look at what Bonecrusher Smith did. Smith was no great boxer.
If Toney wins, I give Tyson a chance. Toney is one guy I can see Tyson overpowering in the clinches. In addition to this, Toney does not hit nearly as hard as Ruiz, and he's even shorter than Mike, so I can see Tyson getting to him eventually.Comment
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Originally posted by Kid AchillesDepends on who the winner is.
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That is kind of my basis in defending Tyson. Depending on how the draw works....in a potential heavyweight unification scheme, Tyson could end up with opponents whom he can beat. Lets say Rock does somehow beat Vitali, Tyson faced and beat the winner of Ruiz/Toney, That would leave Wlad and Byrd to settle their former dispute, Rahman faces the winner of that match. ASSUMING Rahman were to beat Wladimir, This would leave Tyson V.S. Rahman for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. Something that is VERY attainable at that point for Mike. If he ended up with: Williams(somehow), Vitali, Byrd, or Wlad...he would have trouble. Outside of that: I see nobody as a threat to beat him. Holy can not fight in the United States of America anymore. He would have a field day with guys like Samil Sam, Tye Fields, Valuev, Meehan, Brewster and any other freakshow. The heavyweight division has a limited number of fighters who can weather serious hailstorms. Especially ones of his caliber. That you have to give him credit for.
And I just see the clinching tactic as being a bad idea against the type of fighter Mike is. Exactly like Berndstein said about Lacy:
"You have to get him out of there. His power is an equalizer in fights".
I feel that your run of the mill heavyweight needs to "Get him out of there" or else. We all know what he is capable of.
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I agree that if Tyson chooses his opponents correctly he can still win some fights and just maybe win one of the major belts. However, I have the feeling his losing effort against Lewis was the last time we'll see him fight for the big apple.Comment
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Tyson's chin is "iron" its just his stamina and heart and determination that are a problem for him, but at his age 36 or 38 it does not look like there is chance for him to come back and sweep the diviosn.
I bet however if Tyson wins like 4 fights in a row than fights Klistchko He wont have bad odds against him, he always has a chance to do it, He is "Iron" Mike Tyson.Comment
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Originally posted by The_One77Does Mike Tyson still have the boxing ability and hunger to reach to the top?, or does he need to give up and maybe fade away as being one of the most recognized ruthless champions that ever lived. The man who had all the oppurtunities in the world and yet at the end never really achieved a self-hapiness from the sport.
Great quote though,
Mike: I'm the best ever, i'm the most brutal and vicious champion there's ever been. There's noone who can stop me, linx the conqueror, no i'm alexander he's no alexander' i'm the best ever. I'm sonny liston, i'm jack Dempsey, there's noone like me, i'm from their claw, there's noone who can match me.
My style is Unpitious, my defense is impregnable and i'm just feroious. I want your heart, i wanna eat your children!
He's a bit of a nutter sometimes though.
NO. He's too OLD
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leff, he(Tyson) should watch old tapes of Ali. He'll get the ideaOriginally posted by lefftell me please how to develop a chin.
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The people who hate Mike Tyson really love Mike Tyson. They're just trying to be different from the majority, which are people who love Tyson. I truly feel sorry for the people he's going to knock unconcious....namely Chris Byrd.Comment
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He can be a champ again...
but he can't do what george foreman did and knockout a young michael moorer, he can be a champ in this crappy divisionComment
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