Can Mike Tyson do the greatest comeback in history?

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  • prtynacan
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    #31
    Tyson has a great chin - he got hit with everything from Lewis that fight and it took 7 rounds to go down. Sadly, Tyson just doesn't have the skills anymore - his head movement, defense and quickness are greatly diminished from his pre prison days. He can't make fighters pay for missing him anymore, or make them miss for that matter. It's almost as bad to watch him fight as it is to see Holyfield take beatings from blown up middleweights. Put the gloves away Mike - be a promoter instead.

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    • Dude
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      #32
      Originally posted by Runw/knives
      You say Joppy has no chance in beating Sturm.

      I say Toney has no chance in hell of beating Mike Tyson. That fat slob would get KTFO by the better fighter. And true heavyweight.
      Toney beat Holyfield. Not that it would be a big deal but ten years ago Holyfield would've knocked Toney out bad.

      15 years ago I wouldn't have bet on Toney to survive the first three rounds against Tyson. But Tyson is shot. He lost to Williams. To the very same Williams that got destructed by Samil Sam. Tyson is an easy night for most of the still active HWs out there.

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      • leff
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dude
        You might wanna ask him instead:



        he said: standing still and let my sparringpartner hit me clean repeatly was no good idea.

        sure it ill get tougher but not much besides i like my head intact

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        • Run
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          #34
          Originally posted by Dude
          Toney beat Holyfield. Not that it would be a big deal but ten years ago Holyfield would've knocked Toney out bad.

          15 years ago I wouldn't have bet on Toney to survive the first three rounds against Tyson. But Tyson is shot. He lost to Williams. To the very same Williams that got destructed by Samil Sam. Tyson is an easy night for most of the still active HWs out there.
          I refuse to believe that a blown up middleweight, is going to do a damn thing to Mike Tyson. The people that knocked him out, where ridiculous punchers. All of them. Williams knocked Meehan out in 30 seconds. Lewis was an assassin. Douglas---great punching power. Holy---simply exerted his will on Tyson which Toney does not have. Tyson would crush Toney, the minute he tries that "laying on the ropes" tactic. He is fat, and does not have the lateral movement to escape a damn thing Tyson would throw.

          Did you see the first half of the Williams fight? Do you actually think Toney could weather a storm like that? I sure as hell dont. Those fighters were possessed, the ones who "dominated" Tyson. I dont like Mike very much, but this I would ASSUME. No way he can take those "kinds of punches". It takes a big dude to beat Tyson. Ala: Everyone who did beat him with the exception of Holy.

          I have always been one to critique Tyson. Except ruling him out is ridiculous. He still has that great Equalizer in fights.



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          • leff
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mayweatherfan
            Yeah but before that he got pounded for 7 rounds so its not like that was one good shot from Lewis that knocked him out.
            true he was beaten bad for 7 rounds first, but im still sure he would have gone down from that shot if it landed in the first.

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            • Tha Greatest
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              #36
              I'm sorry to say
              Mike Tyson had lots of potential but now he's just pure SHOT

              Mike Tyson just don't got it no more physically or mentally, i think he can make a comeback but not the greatest comeback ever....with the heavyweights we got now anyone can make a comeback maybe even big George lol, but Tyson will not dominate

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                #37
                Originally posted by leff
                he said: standing still and let my sparringpartner hit me clean repeatly was no good idea.

                sure it ill get tougher but not much besides i like my head intact
                Alternativly you might run against walls or ask a friend to drop some stones on your head.

                That's BS, of course you get tougher once you're used to take a good punch but a professional HW fighter and former champion has taken too much punches, not the other way round.

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                • prtynacan
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by leff
                  true he was beaten bad for 7 rounds first, but im still sure he would have gone down from that shot if it landed in the first.
                  So the fact that he went down from a fantastic right hand shot from one of the biggest punchers in the division, after suffering fantastic punishment for 6 rounds means he has a bad chin? That's like saying Ali has a bad chin because he went down from an incredible Frazier left hook in the 15th round.

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                  • leff
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by prtynacan
                    So the fact that he went down from a fantastic right hand shot from one of the biggest punchers in the division, after suffering fantastic punishment for 6 rounds means he has a bad chin? That's like saying Ali has a bad chin because he went down from an incredible Frazier left hook in the 15th round.

                    i never said he had a bad chin, his chin is fine, i just said he`s been knocked out by single punches not just combos.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Runw/knives
                      I refuse to believe that a blown up middleweight, is going to do a damn thing to Mike Tyson. The people that knocked him out, where ridiculous punchers. All of them. Williams knocked Meehan out in 30 seconds. Lewis was an assassin. Douglas---great punching power. Holy---simply exerted his will on Tyson which Toney does not have. Tyson would crush Toney, the minute he tries that "laying on the ropes" tactic. He is fat, and does not have the lateral movement to escape a damn thing Tyson would throw.

                      Did you see the first half of the Williams fight? Do you actually think Toney could weather a storm like that? I sure as hell dont. Those fighters were possessed, the ones who "dominated" Tyson. I dont like Mike very much, but this I would ASSUME. No way he can take those "kinds of punches". It takes a big dude to beat Tyson. Ala: Everyone who did beat him with the exception of Holy.

                      I have always been one to critique Tyson. Except ruling him out is ridiculous. He still has that great Equalizer in fights.
                      I've seen the Williams fight. And it really made me feel sorry. Danny is not even an A-class heavyweight. He's slow, he lacks control and, no, he is not a big puncher compared to others.

                      Toney would not only beat Tyson right now, he'd make him look ******, he'd be able to showboat and to dance. Williams went down several times against Vitali. He doesn't posses a superbe chin. Tyson's so shot that even his power is beginning to fade. He lost his speed, his movement, his pride, his motivation and his self believe over the years. Somewhere on the way he even lost some million dollars. He's the prime example for a fighter with great talent who ends up being abused by everyone including himself. A few months ago Tyson still had a punchers chance. Now he has nothing. He's lost everything and there's no way he could get it back again. Tyson has to retire and try to make some money of his fame and past.

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