Can Mike Tyson do the greatest comeback in history?

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  • leff
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    #41
    Originally posted by Runw/knives
    I have never seen that before. The closest I have seen him go down from 1 punch, was the uppercutt by Douglas that sent him to the canvas. Everything else was from accumulation of punishment.
    You didnt see tyson-LL??

    yes there he was hit many times in the fight but went down from 1 flash right not a combo like from holy,williams and douglas.

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    • Run
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dude
      Toney would not only beat Tyson right now, he'd make him look ******, he'd be able to showboat and to dance. .
      That is what I am having a hard time believing. Who was the last person who "Showboated" and "Danced" against Mike? I am sure they have someone tying their shoes for them as we speak. The only "Dancing" Toney does is when he is excited about opening a snack-and-go yogurt.



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      • Dude
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        #43
        Originally posted by Runw/knives
        That is what I am having a hard time believing. Who was the last person who "Showboated" and "Danced" against Mike? I am sure they have someone tying their shoes for them as we speak. The only "Dancing" Toney does is when he opens a snack-and-go yogurt.
        Even Tyson can't KO the time. Right now Toney might be able to open a yogurt while boxing Iron Mike. It's sad and hard to believe but it's the truth. Ali lost a UD to Trevor Berbick in his last fight. Doesn't that make you realize?

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        • Run
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dude
          Even Tyson can't KO the time. Right now Toney might be able to open a yogurt while boxing Iron Mike. It's sad and hard to believe but it's the truth. Ali lost a UD to Trevor Berbick in his last fight. Doesn't that make you realize?
          You need to realize something.

          I never said he would win the heavyweight crown.
          All I said was: He could beat Toney easily, and is still a threat because of his punching power. You cant just group me into a category named "Tyson-Hugger", because I have never done that. I am just pointing out the facts. Toney's style is taylor made for the better fighter in Tyson. Period.

          Tyson > Toney. By a longshot. He would expose Toney's chin at this level. I gauruntee it.



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          Last edited by Run; 04-03-2005, 07:07 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Runw/knives
            You need to realize something.

            I never said he would win the heavyweight crown.
            All I said was: He could beat Toney easily, and is still a threat because of his punching power. You cant just group me into a category named "Tyson-Hugger", because I have never done that. I am just pointing out the facts.
            All I'm saying is: He can't beat any A or B class HW and his punching power isn't half of what it used to be.

            I'm no "Tyson-Hater" and you're no "Tyson-Hugger". I'm just thinking that Tyson is no exception in the history of shot HWs and you don't.

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            • Run
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dude
              Tyson is no exception in the history of shot HWs and you don't.
              IMO he is....because of his punching power. He hits as hard as anyone in the division right now. Foreman did, and he Exposed Moorer's chin, placing intelligent shots on him throughout the fight. Tyson is a tad bit more explosive at this stage than Foreman was. He still is a threat to hurt a heavyweight. Williams has a decent chin despite what people think. He sustained punishment from Vitali for several rounds, and showed heart by getting up.

              Tyson made him look like a pinata for a little while in their fight. He was disco dancing for sure. Williams was singing "Staying Upright", and "Play that funky uppercutt Tyson".

              If anyone ever gets whacked like that again? How in the sam hell are they going to hold up? What heavyweight other than Williams(that night) or Vitali is going to stand up to that? If Tua comes back, maybe.

              NOBODY.



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              • Kid Achilles
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                #47
                I think you're overrating Tyson's power. Williams does not have a great chin. He was hurt by Vitali's arm punches and knocked all over the place by Sinan Samil San. He has an abundance of courage but his chin is not the best in this division

                Tyson's last great KO was Botha. The punch that took down Etienne looked impressive but it's obvious the guy stayed down. Not a clean KO. Tyson has a big punch but so does Bowe, and so did Witherspoon. It wasn't just Foreman's punch that made his comeback so successful.

                Comparing Tyson and Big George, Foreman was taller and rangier, physically stronger, and had more heart and chin. To put it blunt, he was a tougher man. Foreman could afford to take a punch to give one. He got away with being slow. Tyson can't do that. While it's hard to drop Tyson, it isn't hard to tame him.

                Most importantly, Foreman's boxing style always relied on his power and physical strength. Foreman would shove a guy back to get a little punching room and smash away at them. He had a ramrod of a jab which is used, often not to step up combinations, but as a weapon itself. He would simply jab an opponent over and over to great effect.

                A prime Tyson depended on quick reflexes and blistering hand speed. Without that quickness he is not a great or even a very good fighter. He's just another heavyweight with a punch. A David Tua with slightly faster hands and a weaker chin. I think Tyson's chance of making a comeback are close to none. Much less than Foreman's for sure. A speed fighter without his speed is a lost soul.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                  I think you're overrating Tyson's power.
                  Right. But what heavyweight can withstand his punches? If he lands them? I am not saying he would "Land them". But if he did? that changes the fight 180 degrees. Williams JUST WOULD NOT GIVE UP in their fight. Like the bravery he showed against Vitali. I dont like Mike Tyson personally, but He is a dangerous and formidable opponent in the ring with the shallow heavyweight pool however. This I am starting to realize. And I actually think he STILL could possibly make an impact in this division. After all, who would you favor if Tyson were to face the winner of Ruiz/Toney? Because I would have to say Mike would blow them out of the water, with limited trouble.



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                  Last edited by Run; 04-03-2005, 09:34 PM.

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                  • SonnyG8R
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                    #49
                    Tyson belongs in a glass cage next too the bearded women the the man with one eye.

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                    • mauricio95
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                      #50
                      just one word

                      NO!

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