Cotto Is NOT Shotto!

[Dynamite Kid]

No need for this DK. That was a kinda snidey remark.

Graham Earl was an OK fighter, nothing special at all (I thought I'd made that clear in the first post?), but certainly better than to be blown out by Khan within 72 seconds under normal circumstances.

My points still stands: Cotto is not shot. IMO.



There. I would say he was rubbish but that would be a bit harsh. I was being nice.

Nothing snidey its just i know your agenda is to make Calzaghe's win over Jones out to be something that isn't and you are trying to do the same thing here before your boy Manny fights Cotto.

Of coarse you will say its not but you are not fooling anyone here, not me at least.

[S A M U R A I]

Nothing snidey its just i know your agenda is to make Calzaghe's win over Jones out to be something that isn't and you are trying to do the same thing here before your boy Manny fights Cotto.

Of coarse you will say its not but you are not fooling anyone here, not me at least.

I don't have time for this crap.

Think whatever you want if it makes you feel better. My problem actually is with Roach. I thought his comment about Cotto was out of line. Simple as.

BTW, I always said Calzaghe's win over Jones was meaningless.



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[Dynamite Kid]

I don't have time for this crap.

Think whatever you want if it makes you feel better. My problem actually is with Roach. I thought his comment about Cotto was out of line. Simple as.

What makes me feel better is knowing that posters are not letting their favoritism for a particular fighter influence their opinion and pretending they are objective posters.

You bite every single time there is a Pac thread, well you have a little nibble anyway, before you were just a flat out fanboy but you clearly still have those instincts but try to temper that by acting objective, **** like this always exposes you though.

Dont lie to yourself, we both know that deep down its all about you not being able to handle the fact that if Manny wins some people wont want to give him full props because some believe Cotto is past his best, not me myself but others.

See your acting pissy now saying "I don't have time for this crap" because you know what im saying is true.

No offence son but you are a fanboy when all said and done.

[S A M U R A I]

What makes me feel better is knowing that posters are not letting their favoritism for a particular fighter influence their opinion and pretending they are objective posters.

You bite every single time there is a Pac thread, well you have a little nibble anyway, before you were just a flat out fanboy but you clearly still have those instincts but try to temper that by acting objective, **** like this always exposes you though.

Dont lie to yourself, we both know that deep down its all about you not being able to handle the fact that if Manny wins some people wont want to give him full props because some believe Cotto is past his best, not me myself but others.

See your acting pissy now saying "I don't have time for this crap" because you know what im saying is true.

No offence son but you are a fanboy when all said and done.

Wow. Someone got out the wrong side of the bed.

Anyway, from March:

Reed, I see your points, but let's just say he turned Jones down... you know that everyone and their mother would have said Joe is ducking Roy!

This fight had to be made. Much like Lewis-Tyson. The public have always wanted to see it, and though it was way later than it really should have been, it was still something we all wanted to see.

Myself, I always said Joe's win over Jones is kinda meaningless at this point, but I understand exactly why these guys fought. Great pay day, boxing fans wanted it, and it was just one of those fight that had to happen.

I thought you and me were OK these days my man. Kinda disappointed, to be honest.





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[Dynamite Kid]

Wow. Someone got out the wrong side of the bed.

Anyway, from March:



I thought you and me were OK these days my man. Kinda disappointed, to be honest.

There was nothing in Jones vs Calzaghe, no one was clamoring for that ****, more people were interested in seeing him fight Pavlik than Jones, irrespective of whether he would of beaten Pavlik. You are trying to create a train of thought that did not exist in the minds of Boxing fans at the time, he was roundly criticized by many Boxing fans for fighting Jones because he had just fought another 40 year old in his last fight.

[S A M U R A I]

There was nothing in Jones vs Calzaghe, no one was clamoring for that ****, more people were interested in seeing him fight Pavlik than Jones, irrespective of whether he would of beaten Pavlik. You are trying to create a train of thought that did not exist in the minds of Boxing fans at the time, he was roundly criticized by many Boxing fans for fighting Jones because he had just fought another 40 year old in his last fight.

The fight happened way too late, we all know it didn't really mean anything at that point in time, but I disagree that no one wanted to see it. Contrary, there was a fair amount of interest in it, much more than I expected. Quite a few people believed still Jones had what it takes to beat Calzaghe. I didn't.

Well anyway, what can I say. As for trying to create a train of thought, I'm just telling it like I see it. I guess you could be acccused of trying to create a train of thought too, since you always posted harsh comments about Calzaghe? That's fine with me, I don't mind it because it's just your opinion and you're welcome to it, but I suppose we'll have to disagree on this one. I think you've gotten me a bit wrong, though. No agenda here, I swear. If I can't convince you though...



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