Thoughts on the term "bum"...

[Super_Lightweight]

lol

Ah, so we find out the REAL reason you hate the word "Bum." Its because you know you are one. Get over it, bum. And you proved my point with your argument fool.

LOL...ok? Why would they rank me, I haven't even fought at the pro level. Even so, I'm capable of handling myself with pro fighters. So much for "proving your point".

And there's no way you can say Gatti is even as good as Mayweather, let alone better. So, as I have ****ing said, Gatti is a bum relative to Mayweather. You dumb ****.

I never said Gatti was as good as Mayweather. I have simply said that Gatti is not a bum, and does not deserved to be called that, and you are pretty limited in more ways than one if you cannot compare Gatti and Mayweather without using the term bum. It's about politeness, respect for a fighter, and true understanding of the sport. You make it sound like Gatti got obliterated by no-name fighters who have losing records.

You are the one who asserts that Gatti is a bum, and apparently you are arguing that someone can legitimately say Ali is overrated due to his struggles vs Spinks (still scratching my head over that one).

Here:

[masterdirector]

Kid Achillies you're one of the biggest ******s to ever join Boxing Scene. I don't give a **** about anything you have to say because every single post I've ever read from you has proven nothing to me except that you're not a real boxing fan. You're just a little San Francisco ***** boy that likes starting **** for no reason.

Why do you even bother posting you ****ing leech? Go to Easside Boxing where you undoubtedly must've came from.

[masterdirector]

Super lightweight, before you try attacking me with your lame ass "learn english skills" bull****, how about you learn how to read first. I have, NUMEROUS ****ING TIMES, explained in full bloody ****ing detail for you ****suckers why Gatti is a bum and why Mayweather is not. Learn to ****ing read what I have typed in the first place.

It should be ****ing obvious anyhow why Gatti is a bum. What is pathetic is for some ****sucker like you trying to defend Gatti. You deserve to be called names for being so ******. Call names back if you want, don't if you don't, I don't really give a ****. You get too hung up on that too.

Whatever you want to say about Gatti, the point is that he hasn't really beaten anybody that good. Gabe Ruelas is probably his biggest win. And know what? He struggled with ****ty people. People constantly like naming ****ing Wilson Rodriguez as a good opponent of Gatti's. My ****ing ass. Same with Patterson. They were both padded ass record ****ers who weren't ****.

And please explain to me how Gatti is good because he lost to everyone he lost to. Explain how that made him good. Point is, he lost to them. No matter how close he was, he lost. If the cut hadn't been opened he MIGHT have beat Manfredy? That's questionable anyhow. He already had a knockdown against him and Manfredy was doing at least as well as Gatti and I don't think Gatti was going to be stopping Manfredy at that point, so it would've probably gone decision and Manfredy would've probably got the nod. Besides, who was the one with the cut? And who gave him that cut from a punch? He lost legitimately.

[Super_Lightweight]

lol



Alright, dude, seriously...you need some meds. I have no desire to call you names, only to debate boxing but without acting like a kid. Gatti is not a bum, and he is not a great fighter either. That's my stance and I'm tired of telling you why because your perspective is very close-minded and cannot be altered by any evidence. "Bum" is the worst thing any fighter can be, and Gatti is no "bum". He's had enough success to not be called that. If you cannot admit that, I feel sorry for you.

Half the points I offered to you, you could not even defend. Wake up.

[czars_salad]

People are idiots. They don't look at the big picture. Roy Jones dominated for 10+ years and loses twice and all people remember is that he lost to Tarver and Johnson. Just like Randy Moss, he is one of the best recievers in football but he'll drop a big pass and thats all people focus on.

he fought against nobodies and lost to nobodies

[Guest]

Lot of love in the house... I thought the forum was past all the infantile smack that it descended to around the start of the year? It's been a pleasure to post here lately.

MD... you seem to have half a brain yet squander it with these playgrounds insults... do we really need the ****phobic remarks?


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[Rockin']

When I began reading this thread I was surprised to see somebody stepping up having the backs of the fighters. Superlightweight stood up and basicaly said, Hey man, give these guys the credit that they deserve. And then like always, people started throwing ****!

Gatti, is in no way a bum. He might not be the best fighter in the world but he comes to fight and comes to win. It makes me sick to think that people would write that he is a bum. They guy wins probably 85-90% of his bouts, that is not a bum.

Masterdirector, while we have seen eye to eye on certain things, we are no where close on this one. You throw more **** in a day than a toddler can pull from his diaper and sling acrossed a living room wall. You have very strong opinions and a very classless way of getting them acrossed. Battering and slandering the people on this forum has nothing to do with intelligence or of having class. And IF you are really a boxer your trainer would have told you and taught you to show some people a little respect. If you walked into my gym acting the way that you do I would line you up with the meanest mofo I could find and let him beat some respect into you. But this is all just my opinion.

Superlightweight, great thoughts with this thread. I commend you for standing for the fighters when the talking is done always behind their backs with no chance of responding. Good man and karma for you!!!!.............Rockin'

[czars_salad]

Gatti, is in no way a bum. He might not be the best fighter in the world but he comes to fight and comes to win. It makes me sick to think that people would write that he is a bum. They guy wins probably 85-90% of his bouts, that is not a bum.

i agree. cheers bro!

[masterdirector]

I'm not a boxer, never claimed to be one, never want to be one.

Again, nobody ****ing reads what I typed. Bum is a relative term, period. Is Gatti a bum compared to Reggie Strickland? No. But I don't typically talk about Strickland. I usually talk in terms of fighters that I like. Compared to Mayweather, as I've ****ing said 800000000 ****ing times today alone, Gatti is a ****ing bum, period. Gatti sucks ****. He's ****ty. Yes, compared to Mayweather, Gatti sucks donkey balls and slurps up all that magical cum and flies to Neverland Ranch to be Michael Jackson's *****.

Compared to say...Bobby Geipert, Gatti is ****ing Muhammad Ali and isn't a bum.

Gatti should be commended for the things he's done? Sure. Point those things out. Nobody has pointed out anything commendable Gatti has done. 85-90 percent win record? So the hell what Rockin? Joe Mesi is undefeated. That doesn't prove anything.

So come on people, name all the GOOD fighters Gatti has beat. I've already done it for you. Ruelas and like Millet and that's about it. Then look at the people he's lost to. And who he has struggled in beating. There's no reason why anybody truly good should be struggling with Mickey Ward or especially Wilson Rodriguez.

And anybody good would be able to make weight against Joey Gamache and not cheat at the weigh in. But I guess that is OK that Gatti weighed over 140 against a ****ty fighter that doesn't matter like Gamache and ends up ending his career. Yeah, that's ****ing commendable. Gatti's not a bum. That's disgraceful calling a guy of such great character a bum. Give me a break.

Let's say I won't be the least bit sad if Gatti fights a guy that weighs 20 lbs above him and puts him in the hospital. He'd be deserving of the same he did to Gamache.

[BrooklynBomber]

I would not consider fighter a bum who is in top ten or even top fifteen. I would not defintely consider most of the journeymen a bum. IMO bum is a fighter that kept loosing even to the worst of the opposition and lose terribly. Also Gatti for ex. was able to turn his career and while I do not consider him a great fighter nor do I give him much of a chance against PBF he is no bum. The guy makes so much money he could buy your house, your wife and your children and use them as a punching bags. Also remember that using word "bum" is extremely rude and while calling any other athlete a "bum" might be ok remember that fighters can beat you so badly you gonna be in a worse shape than Terry Schiavo.