Cotto: "Margarito in The Past, My New Chapter is Now"

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  • southcalihds
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    #71
    fawk u putosssssssssssssssssss.manny gonan fawk ur uncle up. u wait n see. i be back on saturday to talk shot to u crack heads.....

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    • Iceta
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      And when I say that those guys took Cotto's left hook from him, I didn't say that they totally kept him from landing it. That's not what I meant. What I meant was they made it ineffective. I hardly ever saw Cotto land any left hooks to the body that is his trademark. So nobody owned me on anything. This is a fact. If Margarito's chin is so iron, then why did Mosley score a KO over him when his KO percentage had been bad lately. I'll tell you why. Because he landed some left hooks to go with body punches. Cotto's punches didn't do anything to discourage Margarito because Cotto was always on the defensive.

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #73
        Originally posted by Iceta
        And when I say that those guys took Cotto's left hook from him, I didn't say that they totally kept him from landing it. That's not what I meant. What I meant was they made it ineffective. I hardly ever saw Cotto land any left hooks to the body that is his trademark. So nobody owned me on anything. This is a fact. If Margarito's chin is so iron, then why did Mosley score a KO over him when his KO percentage had been bad lately. I'll tell you why. Because he landed some left hooks to go with body punches. Cotto's punches didn't do anything to discourage Margarito because Cotto was always on the defensive.
        Wow, again trying to discredit Cotto at every chance. So Cotto won the fight against Mosley and Clottey but was ineffective with his best punch... so tell me, what was effective? In what fight are you talking about with the left hook to the body? Even if he did my entire statement still stands, all three of those guys can take a punch. Also... Margarito doesn't have an iron chin since he got knocked out, so its safe to say that Margarito has a weak chin or are you saying it to cover your ass at all costs? Or is it because Mosley is the hardest hitting WW in the division right now and he landed some massive shots on Marg? I'm not saying any of those guys can't be KO'd, but I'm saying it should NEVER be expected, ever.

        Then you make a statement that Cotto is on the defensive as if its a bad thing. Mayweather is ALWAYS on the defensive but that's not viewed in a negative light, why must it be for Cotto. I don't even care about the left hook anymore, its pretty obvious you have nothing to add other than "****, I was owned and now I have to cover my ass anyway I can... I'll say Marg has a weak chin because of one KO loss to the hardest puncher he's ever faced." Now you just look like a jackass, but I still want to see you look even worse. What happened to the right hand comment where I also mentioned Cotto took out two guys with it (Judah/Torres.) Or... did those guys have ****ty chins too and Cotto just got lucky through his entire career?

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          #74
          Originally posted by Iceta
          And when I say that those guys took Cotto's left hook from him, I didn't say that they totally kept him from landing it. That's not what I meant. What I meant was they made it ineffective. I hardly ever saw Cotto land any left hooks to the body that is his trademark. So nobody owned me on anything. This is a fact. If Margarito's chin is so iron, then why did Mosley score a KO over him when his KO percentage had been bad lately. I'll tell you why. Because he landed some left hooks to go with body punches. Cotto's punches didn't do anything to discourage Margarito because Cotto was always on the defensive.
          I agree Cotto was a little too defensive in that fight.
          What Mosley did Different is when he connected on Margarito and Marg. smiled, Shane came at him even harder. When Cotto connected and Marg. smiled Cotto seemed to be intimidated and backed off. I do believe if Cotto was more offended minded he could have did the same as Mosley. Marg. is too easy to hit.

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          • KingTito
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            #75
            I can't wait.

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            • Iceta
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              #76
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              Wow, again trying to discredit Cotto at every chance. So Cotto won the fight against Mosley and Clottey but was ineffective with his best punch... so tell me, what was effective? In what fight are you talking about with the left hook to the body? Even if he did my entire statement still stands, all three of those guys can take a punch. Also... Margarito doesn't have an iron chin since he got knocked out, so its safe to say that Margarito has a weak chin or are you saying it to cover your ass at all costs? Or is it because Mosley is the hardest hitting WW in the division right now and he landed some massive shots on Marg? I'm not saying any of those guys can't be KO'd, but I'm saying it should NEVER be expected, ever.

              Then you make a statement that Cotto is on the defensive as if its a bad thing. Mayweather is ALWAYS on the defensive but that's not viewed in a negative light, why must it be for Cotto. I don't even care about the left hook anymore, its pretty obvious you have nothing to add other than "****, I was owned and now I have to cover my ass anyway I can... I'll say Marg has a weak chin because of one KO loss to the hardest puncher he's ever faced." Now you just look like a jackass, but I still want to see you look even worse. What happened to the right hand comment where I also mentioned Cotto took out two guys with it (Judah/Torres.) Or... did those guys have ****ty chins too and Cotto just got lucky through his entire career?
              If you think Torres has a good chin then you need to watch his second fight with Kendall Holt. If Judah has a good chin then he wouldn't be fighting a guy with a record of 22-20. You're bringing up scrubs to try to justify that Cotto's right hand is great when it's not. I'm saying that Cotto lacks one punch power in his right hand like De La Hoya did and when his left hook is neutralized he is very beatable. And you just wanna keep debating be on this because you won't get Cotto's **** out of your mouth and you just wanna keep slobbering on it.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Iceta
                If you think Torres has a good chin then you need to watch his second fight with Kendall Holt. If Judah has a good chin then he wouldn't be fighting a guy with a record of 22-20. You're bringing up scrubs to try to justify that Cotto's right hand is great when it's not. I'm saying that Cotto lacks one punch power in his right hand like De La Hoya did and when his left hook is neutralized he is very beatable. And you just wanna keep debating be on this because you won't get Cotto's **** out of your mouth and you just wanna keep slobbering on it.
                Actually no, I stated Cotto doesn't have one punch power in either hand, because he isn't that kind of fighter. But you're saying Judah doesn't have a good chin yet the Cotto fight is the only one I can remember him losing. We aren't talking about skills we're talking about chins and... well I guess using you're logic in stating that Marg has a weak chin with one KO loss Judah must be in the same boat. As for Torres when he fought Cotto it was his first loss by KO, then came the Judah KO. FYI, I'm not sucking Cotto's **** I'm just using facts and you can't really debate the opposite because of it. What I'm also saying is no one has been able to really neutralize Cotto's left, they've only been able to take its power. And thus far, the only guys who've been able to handle it are guys with no KO losses, and come in on fight night at the same weight or in the case of Marg/Clottey heavier than Cotto. Manny does not have that advantage going into this fight.

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                • Iceta
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Actually no, I stated Cotto doesn't have one punch power in either hand, because he isn't that kind of fighter. But you're saying Judah doesn't have a good chin yet the Cotto fight is the only one I can remember him losing. We aren't talking about skills we're talking about chins and... well I guess using you're logic in stating that Marg has a weak chin with one KO loss Judah must be in the same boat. As for Torres when he fought Cotto it was his first loss by KO, then came the Judah KO. FYI, I'm not sucking Cotto's **** I'm just using facts and you can't really debate the opposite because of it. What I'm also saying is no one has been able to really neutralize Cotto's left, they've only been able to take its power. And thus far, the only guys who've been able to handle it are guys with no KO losses, and come in on fight night at the same weight or in the case of Marg/Clottey heavier than Cotto. Manny does not have that advantage going into this fight.
                  Which is gonna show what a mediocre fighter Cotto is once he loses this fight.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Iceta
                    Which is gonna show what a mediocre fighter Cotto is once he loses this fight.
                    Ha ha, I was waiting for a comment like that once I knew I had you cornered. You made one dumbass, uninformed comment too many and you resort to, Cotto is going to lose anyway. Was fun making you look like an idiot, we'll see who wins on the 14th. I still say its a 50/50 fight, but I'm going Cotto with 11th or 12th round KO/TKO, but if Manny wins I won't be surprised.

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                    • edgarg
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by elytwo10
                      Cotto, I sure hope you are past that loss because it has yet to be seen if you really are. Based on pics & video of Cotto he looks extemely focused and prepared mentally ( which is always the most important ) but you can never tell with this guy he has no facial expressions.

                      Im sick and tired of hearing that De La Hoya was drained, Ok we get it he was drained because it had been years since he's seen 147 so what? He was not ready for Pac's speed,power & skill period. De La Hoya just did not have any answers and even if he wasn't drained it would be the same dam outcome. Nacho didn't help either I mean his gameplan was to fight Pac like Marquez and DLH is not or fights in no way like Marquez.

                      Cotto is a beast and will be the victor if "Margarito" is really behind him if not he may have problems with Pac's outstanding footwork. Im glad Cotto is fresh of a recent fight so he really didn't even get a chance to stay out of shape. The only downside is that eyebrow of his, I recently saw a Pic of him and it looked like a fresh scar, he had a slit on his eyebrow. I would really hate to see that cut re-open, that would interfere with being able to see Cotto's full on 110% performance.
                      Oscar himself said i n an interview a week or more before the fight with Manny P, in answer to his possible weight problems, which everybody was on about...Oscar said that he was already down to 143.5 lbs. He LOOKED great but really was only a dried out husk.

                      As for Hatton, REMEMBER that Hatton had suffered a very bad KO -for his first ever loss- in the Mayweather fight. He went rushing in with his chin stuck up in the air and his hands down. Mayweather caught him with a good punch as he was rushing in, which made the punch heavier.Hatton fell forward and his head connected solidly to the ring post, which, even if padded, was strong aggravation to the punch Hatton already had got.

                      He looked as if his brains had been knocked loose inside his skull, it was such a point-blank, unshielded contact.

                      Simply speaking he has never recovered from that. He did the very same thing with Manny;rushed in with hands down and chin stuck up uin the air. The combination of the punch, added to his strong forward movement, made the punch lethal.

                      In this fight with Cotto, unless he has still not recovered from Margarito, I would expect him to be too strong and skilled for Manny. Manny has a very bad habit of leading with a right hook, and when he misses, which is quite often, the "swing" follow-through, pulls him off balance, and completely open for counter-attack.

                      We've all seen this happen, and seen Manny put his head down, and try to scurry out of the way of any incoming punches, sometimes even turning his back.

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