Paul Williams - the most overrated of his generation?

[Iceta]

Yes he is extremely overrated and gets credit for being avoided because he is a MW and WWs avoid fighting him so yeah....he is very ballzy to want to get in there with any fighter in the world who is smaller than him.....

Spray, I usually view you as a good poster. But i can't co-sign off on this one. The reason why Williams is able to fight at 154 and 160 is because he is just flat out better than all those guys. Berto started his career at Middleweight. Mosley always looks like dog **** at 154 except for when he fought Vargas, but he blows up to Middleweight just like Cotto does on fight night whenever he fights at 147. If Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, then he should have the balls to fight Paul Williams. But he won't because he can't beat him. And then don't even get me started about Clottey. That guy drains a bunch of weight to get down to Welterweight. Because if he didn't he wouldn't have been 170 against Corrales. And Cotto is fighting Pacquiao and Mayweather is fighting JMM while Williams had a fight lined up with Pavlik? And yet you say Williams is the one picking on smaller guys? LMAO.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He seems to get better the more he doesnt fight....

[Beater_of_ass]

Spray, I usually view you as a good poster. But i can't co-sign off on this one. The reason why Williams is able to fight at 154 and 160 is because he is just flat out better than all those guys. Berto started his career at Middleweight. Mosley always looks like dog **** at 154 except for when he fought Vargas, but he blows up to Middleweight just like Cotto does on fight night whenever he fights at 147. If Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, then he should have the balls to fight Paul Williams. But he won't because he can't beat him. And then don't even get me started about Clottey. That guy drains a bunch of weight to get down to Welterweight. Because if he didn't he wouldn't have been 170 against Corrales. And Cotto is fighting Pacquiao and Mayweather is fighting JMM while Williams had a fight lined up with Pavlik? And yet you say Williams is the one picking on smaller guys? LMAO.

So Williams coming down to 147, doesn't mean he isn't doing the same as Clottey, Mosley or Cotto? I mean really... PWill is 6'1" with the reach of a heavyweight, if he was so good why doesn't he move up to 175 instead of cutting so much weight to make 147/154/160. There is nothing wrong with cutting weight, because everyone in the divisions do it. Stop twisting things so only guys you are a fan of do everything right.

[jrosales13]

I feel P-Will could beat anybody from 147-160.

But, he is overrated by some boxingscene posters. I mean Iceta thinks Williams-Dawson is a 50/50 fight FFS.

[Iceta]

So Williams coming down to 147, doesn't mean he isn't doing the same as Clottey, Mosley or Cotto? I mean really... PWill is 6'1" with the reach of a heavyweight, if he was so good why doesn't he move up to 175 instead of cutting so much weight to make 147/154/160. There is nothing wrong with cutting weight, because everyone in the divisions do it. Stop twisting things so only guys you are a fan of do everything right.

Cotto and Clottey are the masters of cutting weight. Cotto blows up like crazy almost as bad as Hatton does in between camps. Man, that's what that coke sniffing and partying in clubs can do to you. Williams does not have a big body frame. He's just tall. You guys are trying to black ball him out of these divisions because P-Will is gonna be waiting for Cotto's ass. And when he catches him, it's game over.

[Beater_of_ass]

Cotto and Clottey are the masters of cutting weight. Cotto blows up like crazy almost as bad as Hatton does in between camps. Man, that's what that coke sniffing and partying in clubs can do to you. Williams does not have a big body frame. He's just tall. You guys are trying to black ball him out of these divisions because P-Will is gonna be waiting for Cotto's ass. And when he catches him, it's game over.

If Williams can fight at 160 and still be so dominate making 147 isn't cutting weight? Come on man, have some common sense. Also, prior to popular belief no matter how good of a fighter you are, size eventually cannot be overcome by skill. Essentially putting in Manny, Cotto, Mayweather in there with Pwill is a total mismatch simply off reach and height advantage. They could barely reach his face to hit him if they even get close enough, that's the reason he can't get a fight at 147, of which he is OBVIOUSLY cutting a massive amount of weight for. They are giving up 6 inches just in height and probably near double digits in reach, just because a guy can make a weightclass doesn't mean he has any business being in it.

[Iceta]

If Williams can fight at 160 and still be so dominate making 147 isn't cutting weight? Come on man, have some common sense. Also, prior to popular belief no matter how good of a fighter you are, size eventually cannot be overcome by skill. Essentially putting in Manny, Cotto, Mayweather in there with Pwill is a total mismatch simply off reach and height advantage. They could barely reach his face to hit him if they even get close enough, that's the reason he can't get a fight at 147, of which he is OBVIOUSLY cutting a massive amount of weight for. They are giving up 6 inches just in height and probably near double digits in reach, just because a guy can make a weightclass doesn't mean he has any business being in it.

So does that mean that Caballero shouldn't fight at 122? If Williams is so beatable according to the TS, then why did Shane Mosley just accept a lot less money to fight the overrated Berto than he would've got for fighting Paul? Why did Clottey just show his wolf ticket when like I said he could easily make 154? Why does Floyd shiver at the thought of having to mention his name? Why did Margarito take less money to get his ass beat by Mosley? The only guys that want to fight Paul Williams are guys who stand to gain something for the loss. I'm not saying he isn't unbeatable. I'm just saying that all the other fighters seem to think that. Or else they'd want to fight him.