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  • #21
    Originally posted by Hyde View Post
    mayweather
    pacquiao
    hatton
    roy jones jr
    mosley
    haye
    wlad klitschko
    vitali klitschko
    miguel cotto
    bernard hopkins

    Id say these fighters are the most famous in the world right now and imo thats how you judge if a fighter is a global star or not. But I don't really think any of these are a real global star in the sense that they are famous around the world. The most recent real global star is probably Mike Tyson.
    I wouldn't consider RJJ a global star any more. He's waaaaaaaayyyyy past it.

    As stated earlier I wouldn't want to include SSM due to his shady past.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Jambo boy View Post
      Yes, but I think that their past also makes them more talked about and therefore more famous.

      You could make an argument for P.Wills place on that list too I think. (and Toney???)
      Williams is not a draw. Yet. He might very possibly be a superstar at this time next year, but today he cannot draw flies to a ****.

      As for the other 2, well the list is mine. I don't like cheaters (goes for Toney as well).

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        I wouldn't consider RJJ a global star any more. He's waaaaaaaayyyyy past it.

        As stated earlier I wouldn't want to include SSM due to his shady past.
        Well he is still way more famous than the likes of Lucian Bute, Arthur Abraham and Kelly Pavlik. Without a doubt.

        And even though SSM has a shady past he is still also way more famous than the likes of Lucian Bute, Arthur Abraham and Kelly Pavlik.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          What will the top 10 boxingstars globally look like today?

          Pretty difficult because how do you measure stardom?

          Is it a question of:
          A: how big a gate you make?
          B: How big a purse you command?
          C: How many people know who you are?
          D: Etc.

          Plenty of options. I find it impossible to make a list objectively, but from a global perspective with my own undefined subjective criterias, my top 10 boxing stars looks like this:

          1: Manny Pacquiao
          2: Floyd Mayweather
          3: Miguel Cotto
          4: Wlad Klitschko
          5: Vitali Klitschko
          6: Ricky Hatton
          7: Bernard Hopkins
          8: Arthur Abraham
          9: Kelly Pavlik
          10: Mikkel Kessler
          11: Lucien Bute

          Hmm.... looking at it it might be slightly biased towards europeans although I cannot really say who should replace who. Do you?

          EDIT: I've put in Hatton at no.6. Everybody else drops one place accordingly.

          6 do you not listen, lol haton is top 3 and i don't even like the guy. the big 4 were pac, floyd, oscar and hatton, thats why they all fought each other, because they knew they would generate the most cash because of their stardom. oscar was top because he is oscar, but the hatton might have a case for being bigger star than floyd anyway. hatton has far more fans, and who actually travel in mass, something floyd fans would never do. he even gets more at his weigh in than floyd does for his fights, but then manny has a whole nation behind him.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Hyde View Post
            Well he is still way more famous than the likes of Lucian Bute, Arthur Abraham and Kelly Pavlik. Without a doubt.

            And even though SSM has a shady past he is still also way more famous than the likes of Lucian Bute, Arthur Abraham and Kelly Pavlik.
            RJJ might beat the other guys in regards to fame and if that was the main criteria in my (subjective) list, he would be there. Boxers on my list do however need to have some ability and badassness to be able to crack my top 10.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by broxi51 View Post
              6 do you not listen, lol haton is top 3 and i don't even like the guy. the big 4 were pac, floyd, oscar and hatton, thats why they all fought each other, because they knew they would generate the most cash because of their stardom. oscar was top because he is oscar, but the hatton might have a case for being bigger star than floyd anyway. hatton has far more fans, and who actually travel in mass, something floyd fans would never do. he even gets more at his weigh in than floyd does for his fights, but then manny has a whole nation behind him.
              I do listen, but the list is mine! Lol.

              I cannot put Hatton higher because he does not have the ability he had last year (before he became a HW).

              Of course your point about Hatton's fans are valid. It's all about how much emphasis you put into that criteria when defining 'stardom'.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                RJJ might beat the other guys in regards to fame and if that was the main criteria in my (subjective) list, he would be there. Boxers on my list do however need to have some ability and badassness to be able to crack my top 10.
                Well I don't really know your defenition of a global star but my take on it is how famous you are. How good or how badass the fighter is, is completley irrelevant.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Hyde View Post
                  Well I don't really know your defenition of a global star but my take on it is how famous you are. How good or how badass the fighter is, is completley irrelevant.
                  If it's solely based on fame you would have to include Holyfield and perhaps also retired fighters (Oscar).

                  My criterias isn't clear at all. It's a highly subjective list. I might not be able to define precisely what it takes to be on MY list, but I feel I objectively can defend the guys I've put on the list (if that makes any sense).

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                    I do listen, but the list is mine! Lol.

                    I cannot put Hatton higher because he does not have the ability he had last year (before he became a HW).

                    Of course your point about Hatton's fans are valid. It's all about how much emphasis you put into that criteria when defining 'stardom'.
                    you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by broxi51 View Post
                      you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them.
                      Post up your own list then dip****, so we can all pick holes in it.

                      It's one thing to slate other people's lists, but making your own is completely different.

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