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  • #31
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    If it's solely based on fame you would have to include Holyfield and perhaps also retired fighters (Oscar).

    My criterias isn't clear at all. It's a highly subjective list. I might not be able to define precisely what it takes to be on MY list, but I feel I objectively can defend the guys I've put on the list (if that makes any sense).
    Arent Holyfield and DLH retired? If I'll count them in then they'll be at the top of the list for shure.

    The thing is that if you would say that Pavlik, Bute and Kessler have more global stardom than RJJ, Mosley and Hatton you would be straight up lying. Because the word "global star" isn't about who is the better fighter it's about who is more famous and are more of a global star. I mean that's kind like the defenition of the word isn't it?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jambo boy View Post
      Post up your own list then dip****, so we can all pick holes in it.

      It's one thing to slate other people's lists, but making your own is completely different.
      no need for name calling, and i dont need a list to. the top ten global stars are fact, the one who make the most money per fight basically plus adds on like sponsor. there will be an official one flying about somewhere on the net but i got better things to like sending out more bait for the fishies to bite.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by broxi51 View Post
        you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them.
        As I've already said ability is a parameter on my list. Neither Hatton nor RJJ scores very well in that department. They might be on the list if it was only based on boxofficeappeal, but if you took the time to read my earlier posts, you would find out that it's not my only criteria.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hyde View Post
          Arent Holyfield and DLH retired? If I'll count them in then they'll be at the top of the list for shure.

          The thing is that if you would say that Pavlik, Bute and Kessler have more global stardom than RJJ, Mosley and Hatton you would be straight up lying. Because the word "global star" isn't about who is the better fighter it's about who is more famous and are more of a global star. I mean that's kind like the defenition of the word isn't it?
          Oscar is retired yeah. Holyfield isn't, and neither is Riddick Bowe BTW....

          I have already argued why RJJ, SSM and Hatton is placed where they are on my list.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            As I've already said ability is a parameter on my list. Neither Hatton nor RJJ scores very well in that department. They might be on the list if it was only based on boxofficeappeal, but if you took the time to read my earlier posts, you would find out that it's not my only criteria.
            Ok well then you should have named your thread "Top 10 best fighters right now" instead of "Top 10 global stars right now", because abilty doesn't have anything to do with how much of a global star a fighter is. Kessler might be a better fighter than Hatton but he does not have more global stardom than Hatton for example, and you know thats just a fact.

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            • #36
              agree with Hyde - Kessler, Bute and probably Pavlik should be nowhere near this list. I even think Abraham is pushing it, he's no global star in my book. Roy Jones and Shane Mosley would have to be high up the list but the big three are clearly Manny, Floyd and Ricky. I think that's a no-brainer really.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hyde View Post
                Ok well then you should have named your thread "Top 10 best fighters right now" instead of "Top 10 global stars right now", because abilty doesn't have anything to do with how much of a global star a fighter is. Kessler might be a better fighter than Hatton but he does not have more global stardom than Hatton for example, and you know thats just a fact.
                Point taken and Hatton is also placed higher than Kessler etc.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by deadbeat hero View Post
                  agree with Hyde - Kessler, Bute and probably Pavlik should be nowhere near this list. I even think Abraham is pushing it, he's no global star in my book. Roy Jones and Shane Mosley would have to be high up the list but the big three are clearly Manny, Floyd and Ricky. I think that's a no-brainer really.
                  So what would your top 10 be then?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                    Oscar is retired yeah. Holyfield isn't, and neither is Riddick Bowe BTW....

                    I have already argued why RJJ, SSM and Hatton is placed where they are on my list.
                    I know, thats why I'm making counter arguements. You go ahead and try to counter my counter arguements with something. Because theres no way in hell that Kessler, Abraham and Bute have more global stardom than RJJ, Mosley and Hatton. You can't just re-define words you know, global stardom is about how famous one is not how good of a fighter one is. No disrespect or anything but this is just how I feel.

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                    • #40
                      look who a bigger global star david beckham or lionel messi, beckham by a mile but i'd pick messi in my team every bloody time.

                      a global star is not about ability it is about making the $ or £ or whatever currency. a global star manages to elevate the sport or insome cases i.e beckham become bigger than the sport or elevate that sport like usain bolt has done.

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