CompuBox Pre Analysis: Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto

[Dave Rado]

Where the heck did you get those numbers from?

He got them from Compubox.

But he's forgetting that:

1) in Compubox stats, a power punch doesn't mean a powerful punch, it means any punch that isn't a jab, however weak or ineffective it may be (and even including slaps); but ineffective punches are not scored by the judges, and powerful punches are given a lot more weight in the judging than weak ones;

2) in Compubox stats, glancing blows that don't land cleanly are still counted, but in judging, it's only clean and effective punches that count;

3) clean and effective punches are only one out of four criteria that rounds are judged on, they are not the sole criteria, and the other three criteria also matter;

4) Compubox stats are every bit as subject to human error as judges' scores are. Compubox stats are not objective, they are just some guy watching live who presses a button whenever he thinks he sees a punch land - without the benefit of slow motion replays. If you had three people pressing a button, you'd get just as much variety in the stats as you currently get in the judges scoring. It's just a reflection of how one guy happened to see the fight, and nothing more.

If you went by the Compubox stats, Calzaghe would have won 11 out of 12 rounds against Hopkins, but everyone agreed that fight was very close, and a few respected analysts scored it to Hopkins - which proves that Compubox stats have absolutely nothing to do with how a fight should be scored.

[bellagio510ak]

Damn, I ain't even a Cotto fan and I see everyone is sleeping on
Miguel Cotto. If Cotto comes in with his A game then he should
be able to stop Pac in 6/7 rounds. Cotto is a big puncher with a
decent beard, a great jab and knows how to cut off the ring bringing
pressure offensively. If Pacquiao thinks he will move in and out
tagging Cotto then he will be eventually put against the ropes.
Cotto fights his best offensively and Manny is not known to be
an aggressor in his fights but rather wait for his opponent to
come in. Manny hasn't even fought a guy with the size, power
and skill set of Cotto yet, how can people make him such a betting
favorite? Big ass Margarito couldn't even put homes out and he
could of had some help. Manny is going to need to pressure
Cotto inorder to beat him and that's not his game plan or style.
It's not like Manny is a defensive fighter either and sure he will
taste some of Cotto's power shots. Man I can't wait till this
weekend because frankly, as much as I like and respect Manny
Pacquiao, this Pac mania is off the chain. It can go either way
but am leaning towards Cotto just off of experience at WW alone.

I feel you on the fight..i think that people are too quick to count cotto out of the fight, and caught up in the pacman mania..and i am a big fan of paquiao..but cotto is no slouch and not many people are respecting his gangsta..i guess no one is really expecting cotto to be able to land any solid punches on pac??? that's ludacris if they really believe that..I think the biggest factor in the fight is (besides cotto keeping his eyes from gettin cut)how pac is gonna react to cotto's excellent jab and gettin hit with powershots..i know that pac loves to fight and getting hit only fuels his fire, but with a strong boxing/counter-punching champion like cotto, he's not gonna be able to afford taking what cotto has to offer..if marquez can rock pac, then for dam sure cotto can..for pac to win this fight, he has to fight a perfect fight..he has to use his speed and footwork to dictate the pace and not allow cotto to walk him to the ropes for the whole fight..can he do it? we shall soon find out..im a big fan of both fighters and win/lose or draw they both get mad respect..this fight can go either way..my heart is with pacman, but i have a weird feeling about this fight..and if i were a betting man, i would be putting some cash on cotto for the not so surprising upset..by TKO IMO..

[djteo]

yeah, let's discredit the titles pac won over barrera and hatton, even though they were the best fighters at their weight class. what a bunch of horse****.

[FLY TY]

Damn, I ain't even a Cotto fan and I see everyone is sleeping on
Miguel Cotto. If Cotto comes in with his A game then he should
be able to stop Pac in 6/7 rounds. Cotto is a big puncher with a
decent beard, a great jab and knows how to cut off the ring bringing
pressure offensively. If Pacquiao thinks he will move in and out
tagging Cotto then he will be eventually put against the ropes.
Cotto fights his best offensively and Manny is not known to be
an aggressor in his fights but rather wait for his opponent to
come in. Manny hasn't even fought a guy with the size, power
and skill set of Cotto yet, how can people make him such a betting
favorite? Big ass Margarito couldn't even put homes out and he
could of had some help. Manny is going to need to pressure
Cotto inorder to beat him and that's not his game plan or style.
It's not like Manny is a defensive fighter either and sure he will
taste some of Cotto's power shots. Man I can't wait till this
weekend because frankly, as much as I like and respect Manny
Pacquiao, this Pac mania is off the chain. It can go either way
but am leaning towards Cotto just off of experience at WW alone.

the difference between margarito's punches and what pacquiao's will be, is that although stronger, cotto could see margarito's punches, he won't be able to see pacquiao's punches coming. the punches you don't see, can do more damage than the one's you do see, even if they're heavier.

[Igotgame]

Judah did well then ...

Hey everyone I'm a newbie here but not to boxing. One thought that keeps to mind is that everyone says that Judah is like Pacman but bigger with less stamia and was doing real well but still got beat by Cotto. I thought the low blows could have affected Judah enough to offset his mind frame. Would you guys get upset if Cotto gets in trouble and then hits Pac with a low blow? Should he get disqualified? If Pac is doing well then gets low blowed and start to lose, would that be enough reason to justify a loss? Just wondering

[theggamme209]

What were the compubox stats on the manny vs marquez 2 fight? I sure marquez outworked him.

[mrcupide2]

Pacman could beat up the whole world if he wants too!! Yay im gay!!!