Pacquiao Admits Catch-Weight Is Crucial To Outcome With Cotto

[gqjohnb]

So would that not make Mayweather the catchweight king then?? Because both Hatton and Marquez moved up to fight him.

Naw I agree with you It's not fair to call manny the catchweight king. I just said this wouldn't be the first time a fighter is accused of doing something all the time when it occurred once or twice out of many fights.

[IMDAZED]

If Cotto comes in weight drained, he has only himself and his staff to blame. No excuses. They agreed to 145 - and let's not act as if they were forced to do it, they were the ones who suggested 145. Plus, I saw Cotto right after the Clottey weigh-in, he looked like he could knock off a pound and not be anywhere near drained. Clottey was the one dehydrated. If it's an issue, they obviously did something wrong in camp. That said, I see nothing that suggests he's drained. Nothing.

[S A M U R A I]

pac: the catchweight king. roach: the compromise a fighters health king

This is his first catchweight fight ever. How can you be the king of anything if you've never done it before.

And who's really at a disadvantage here... Cotto who has to drop an extra 1 pound, or Manny who has to eat to stay near the weight and came up from lower divisions? He only fought at 140+ twice, one fight in which he weighed in at 142, and the other at 138.

I'd say the latter.



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[S A M U R A I]

If Cotto comes in weight drained, he has only himself and his staff to blame. No excuses. They agreed to 145 - and let's not act as if they were forced to do it, they were the ones who suggested 145. Plus, I saw Cotto right after the Clottey weigh-in, he looked like he could knock off a pound and not be anywhere near drained. Clottey was the one dehydrated. If it's an issue, they obviously did something wrong in camp. That said, I see nothing that suggests he's drained. Nothing.

Exactly man, his doctor said he'd be fine as long as he's above 144 anyway.



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[versatech]

I think the Dela hoya issue should be put to rest.
Dela hoya at 154 came down to 147 to fight PAC at 147 a weight he never fought before. he last and only fight @ 135 fought most of his career @ 125 & 130.
We don't expect him to come all the way up to 154,don't we?
People already considered it a circus and nobody gave PAC a chance even knowing it be at 147.after he wins people make weight issue an alilbi.
Fact is Dela Hoya made all the terms in their fight,he decide it to be @147,he thought he can beat PAC regardless of the weigh,or hes trying to make the fight look fair,he probably though no one would give him credit if he beat PAC w/ a big weight advantage so came in lighter than he should have and paid dearly for it.

[S A M U R A I]

pac wasnt drained for any of the marquez bouts. bunch of bull****!!!!!

Yes he was. Marquez II. He stated it way before this article surfaced.

I get your point but DLH was considered catchweight because DLH was a light middleweight coming down to Welter but it wouldn't be the first time people on the site made quick generalizations for a recent occurrence.

DLH fight wasn't considered a catch weight, it was a Welterweight fight and Oscar had the right to come in at anything up to the limit of 147.

Oscar's fight before Pacquiao (Stevie Forbes) was at a catchweight of 150, so it's not like he even had to drop from 154. He only had to lose 3 pounds, not 7, and he had seven months in which to do it. Let's remember, too -- Oscar asked for it to be at 147. He was the one calling the shots.



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[gqjohnb]

Yes he was. Marquez II. He stated it way before this article surfaced.



DLH fight wasn't considered a catch weight, it was a Welterweight fight and Oscar had the right to come in at anything up to the limit of 147.

Oscar's fight before Pacquiao (Stevie Forbes) was at a catchweight of 150, so it's not like he even had to drop from 154. He only had to lose 3 pounds, not 7, and he had seven months in which to do it. Let's remember, too -- Oscar asked for it to be at 147. He was the one calling the shots.

A catchweight is when two fighters meet at a weight in the middle of their natural weights. Oscar was a LMW and pac was a LW therefore it was a catchweight. I agree that its unfair to call pac the catchweight king just like its unfair to say mayweather always fights smaller fighters when he's been moving up in weight to the tone of 5 divisions his entire career. I keep hearing you guys say it's not manny's fault DLH was drained and that DLH agreed and had the idea for the weight and your right but that's irrelevant. Everybody agrees to the weight and its always their fault if the weight turns out to be too much for them it still doesn't change the fact that they weren't at their best just like Marquez agreed to come up to 144 and mayweather agreed to come up to 154 and so on and so on. It's not about who's fault it is.

[gqjohnb]

Yes he was. Marquez II. He stated it way before this article surfaced.



DLH fight wasn't considered a catch weight, it was a Welterweight fight and Oscar had the right to come in at anything up to the limit of 147.

Oscar's fight before Pacquiao (Stevie Forbes) was at a catchweight of 150, so it's not like he even had to drop from 154. He only had to lose 3 pounds, not 7, and he had seven months in which to do it. Let's remember, too -- Oscar asked for it to be at 147. He was the one calling the shots.

Your misunderstanding what a catchweight is

[Motofan]

He'll always go down as the catchweight king.