Mexico Notebook: Antonio Margarito; Saul Alvarez; Edgar Sosa

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  • superchile
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    #61
    Originally posted by 120
    I wanna see Cotto beat the **** out of Margo....i could care less about money issues with fighters. I also hope that every single last MF in there boos this bastard
    yeah too bad cotto will never face margarito again because he will get his ass starched again

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    • edgarg
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      #62
      Originally posted by ox805er
      truth is that the doubt is still in cotto's mind.. like there's doubt in all PR fans.. cause their boxer lost that night.. or quit.. whatever they wanna call it.. or margarito cheated.. i'm getting tired of hearing this from all the margarito haters.. i'm not supporting him.. i'm just stating facts.. i like him.. he's action, thrills, entertainment.. maybe not as skilled as others but a granite chin will do.. the way i see it.. if he was using plaster, there would be a lot more boxers affected with this.. let's take a look... p willy (champion).. martinez (champion), mosley (champion), cotto (champion), santos (champion), cintron (contender, not much of one but still), clottey (champion, robbed but contender) and i'm sure i could of missed a couple.. i mean all these guys are doing ok... i mean i remember when there was nobody talking **** about trinidad.. and he was also caught with plaster.. whether the new york state commission decided to look the other way is irrelevant.. and he single handly ruin an up an comer like vargas.. cause he was not the same.. plaster punches to the nut must really hurt...

      get over it.. it happened, it's probably more common than people think.. just when he comes back you'll have two options... watch him come back to the top.. or watch him get written off.. all else aside.. he's still a draw.. and if his comeback fight is at staples.. then be it.. i'll go!!

      nobody complained when 2 low blows took judah's legs for the cotto fight!! and PR fighters known for low blows..
      To say that Trinidad was caught with plaster on his hands is a lie.

      The facts are indubitable. Because one of Hopkins' men was not in Trinidad's dressing room when the first fist was wrapped, caused the whole schemozzle. Hopkins' guy insisted that the bandage be taken off and re-wrapped under his eyes. This was done.

      Duiring the hullaballoo after the fight, by the ignorant and ******, Papa Trinidad demonstrated on tape exactly how he wrapped Felix's hands, and said he always wraps them the same way.

      How he did it was to "overshoot" Felix's knuckles by about an inch, then, fold that overhanging inch back over Felix'x fist, giving his knuckles a little extra padding.

      All perfectly legal, and done to protect the hand, not damage the chin.

      So...you stooges out there....GROW UP!!

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      • superchile
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        #63
        Originally posted by vrodz
        Margo has lost all credibility. I will be at the fight and don't care much to seeing him there.
        so in your opinion mosley s win should be questioned also he was an roids and actualy admited he was on the clear yet no ones calls him a cheater why the double standart?

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        • edgarg
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          #64
          Originally posted by ox805er
          thanks and I respect what you're saying.. but unfortunately all i did is googled "plaster of paris, tito trinidad" and i found couple articles where richardson points out stuff falling out of the wraps.. but like i said ny athletic commission is/was different, everyone was asking for margarito's head, but when tito did it (maybe cause of his drawing power and $$ cow status) the commission didnt even test the substances... i mean mayorga gave him plenty of free shots and still took him a while to sit him down.. i dont have nothing against cotto or tito, i just feel tito did more damage to other fighters and his legacy is still in tact..

          but then again it's only my opinion..


          http://www.********boxing.com/forum/...d.php?t=119663
          If plaster of paris was "falling out of the wraps", this would indicate at least, the poor quality of the plaster, not to mention the uselessness of plaster of paris which falls out of wraps, not to mention [also] that if such a thing actual;ly had occurred it would have been blazoned all around the boxing world, and Trinidad would have been banned for life, with his whole "corner"..

          The whole story is a lie anyway, and I've already written about it above.

          However it's always very difficult to get a little ray of truth into the thick wooden skulls [not even bone] of the ignorant and unintelligent.

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          • PHOENIX623
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            #65
            i just wish that mayweather sees margarito as a eazy guy he can beat with a name..please god let him think that way......

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            • Access_Denied
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              #66
              Margarito is going to get bood the fuc out of there, niether Pac or especially Cotto fans like his ass. Who the hell cares if Margarito comes back? His record already has 6 losses and his reputation is pitiful and he will never be able to reedem himself. I mean even if this guy were to knock out Vitali he would not be able to be respected. I would love to see Angulo do this guy like he did Yorgey.If I were to be at the fight I would throw my Bud Light bottle at his head.

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              • LilGizmo562
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                #67
                Originally posted by pinkivory
                It is not the exciment he brings as a fighter, bc he did not bring any excitement against SSM. He did not bring any excitement against PW, what he did was beat Cotto, the best P4P at the time, Cotto seemed unstopable and he got the job done. People started to believe in his hype. I myself was one of them. When I heard about his plaster, all credibility went out the window. Marg tried to cheat against SSM, and as much as his fans want people to believe he did not cheat against Cotto, no one does. Marg told Roach, "that it was Capetillo, and that he did not know what he was putting in his gloves." That, is an admission of guilt. Marg's fans will continue to defend him even if pictures of plaster showed up after the Cotto fight. The other 90% of boxing fans, who are not Cotto haters, now that he cheated.
                Really? I thought Pac was P4P #1 at the time....Cotto was P4P #4 behind Pac, JMM, Cal.

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                • putaloco
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                  #68
                  cotto really had no chance that night. loaded gloves or not.

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by aztecadq
                    Like I said Margarito is an exciting fighter - Just watch him against Cintron, Golden Johnson, Cotto, Lujan, Santos, Clottey etc.,,,- All fights where Margarito fought with will and a drive to win. Every athlete has bad days ( like Cotto against Clottey- Yeah Cotto wasn't that exciting that night )

                    As for guilt and innocence. Like I said before. Margarito is guilty of attempting to use plaster against Mosley. THEY HAVE EVIDENCE. For Cotto, Cintron, Williams, Clottey, Lujan and the rest there is NOTHING NADA ZIP ZERO - STINGY LIKE DENIRO. You can talk out of your arce all you want. But that's the truth. All Cotto fans and boxing fans ( who dislike Margarito ) know this. You may think Margarito did something. Buttttttt you'll always have that uncertainty.

                    Actually, there is a lot of evidence that he used in that fight. However, if you like at it from a legal perspective its all circumstantial. O.J. is the perfect example, all the evidence was there but they didn't have prints on the murder weapon or his DNA anywhere to confirm. But, the glove fit his shoe print was at the crime scene, he had motive. With the Marg fight he certainly had the motive, had he lost that fight he would probably never get a 7 figure payday again. Winning set up shots and DLH and Mayweather, Cotto was bleeding from the eyes and ears (When is the last time that happened with gloves on?) And most importantly, this:





                    Is it enough to say that HE WAS in fact using, its opinion. But there is certainly more than enough to question it. As you can see, the blood is on the same wrap from his blood in the Cotto fight. The Mosley fight was Marg's only fight after Cotto. You can also see that the blood in the wraps had a smaller circumference on the inside compared to the outside which means the blood didn't go from in to outside, it came from the outside and soaked into the rest of the wrap. And, as we all know the only guy bleeding in that fight was Cotto, not Marg. Personally, they should test the blood on the wrap and if it matches Cotto's DNA we know for sure he used because to my knowledge they only fought once. Personally, I'm not sure why they do that, the technology is there to confirm or deny Marg's story.

                    Anyway... you are right that there might not be definitive proof that Marg used. However, there is more than enough to at the very least question his use of illegal wraps, and also enough for people to make an opinion about it. As I stated IF they were to test the blood stain we'd know for sure, I just wish they would.

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                    • Ido
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                      #70
                      That could be blood, or that could be a stain. How would the Cotto’s blood, penetrate Margs boxing glove? Anyhow I can understand, the accusations of loading his gloves. But I don’t think Marg and Team are gross or poor enough, to use the same hand wraps from a previous fight.

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