Mexico Notebook: Antonio Margarito; Saul Alvarez; Edgar Sosa

[LilGizmo562]

I'm not a fan of Margacheato by any means and I'm actually a big Cotto fan, but maybe he'd seen how Cotto was wobbled before by lesser fighters and felt he had enough power to stop him?And maybe he'd seen how Mosley had faced some of the biggest punchers around his division and had never been stopped hence the need for the plaster, to make a statement you know?

Don't bother trying to convince them that Tony may have not cheated, to them he only used plaster against Cotto, since its hard to believe Santos, Clottey and Williams were unaffected by the Plaster and Cotto couldn't take it.

[Borko]

comments like these should result in a ban. and i know lopez36 isnt a troll because hes actually a moron in real life, sad really. lol you act like the legal system is full of integrity. The right amount of money will always buy you acquittal...among other things

[raidersal1124]

Cotto wouldn't fight Rito again if all the money was for charity! simple as that. Real men avenge losses or attempt to at least... i honestly think Cintron has more balls than Cotto....Cintron has said if he is reinstated in the US i will fight him a 3rd time....Cotto just doesn't want anything to do with him anymore and that my friends is *****

[Beater_of_ass]

I'm not a fan of Margacheato by any means and I'm actually a big Cotto fan, but maybe he'd seen how Cotto was wobbled before by lesser fighters and felt he had enough power to stop him?And maybe he'd seen how Mosley had faced some of the biggest punchers around his division and had never been stopped hence the need for the plaster, to make a statement you know?

It has nothing to do with Mosley's chin or his power. The fact is that the Cotto/Marg fight was THE fight into superstardom in getting a fight with DLH and other big names. It was the biggest fight for both Cotto and Marg, it was bigger than the Marg/Mosley fight. If Marg lost the Cotto fight he wouldn't even have been talked about again in boxing, Cotto could afford a loss because of the record, Margarito could not, period. If Marg lost that fight he would never have a chance to make 7 figures again, of course he's gonna use in that fight if he used against Mosley. A guy who was at the time looked upon as being on the last leg of his career, also just the fact that he had to use against an old man at the end of his career speaks wonders about the confidence Marg and/or his trainer had in the Marg as a fighter. If you really believe your fighter is on an elite level you should never stoop that low, because the skills of your fighter should always be enough to win.

[Gabilan]

say what anbody wants,there is no proof of anything,nothing was proven in court,no substance,nothing,,,just wait come january and watch margo's lawyers...he's going to be champ again

I'll hold you to that. Absence of evidence does not conclusively prove innocence. And yes there was substance and if it had been found after the fight Margarito would be in jail. He had intent but was stopped before going through with it. Hopefully his license will not be reinstated. Remember, his suspension was indefinite with the opportunity, just the opportunity, for an appeal after one year. After what he (or capetillo) tried to do to Mosley he deserves to be out for more than one year. Let him spend his time building up his record or whatever in Mexico.

[Gabilan]

It has nothing to do with Mosley's chin or his power. The fact is that the Cotto/Marg fight was THE fight into superstardom in getting a fight with DLH and other big names. It was the biggest fight for both Cotto and Marg, it was bigger than the Marg/Mosley fight. If Marg lost the Cotto fight he wouldn't even have been talked about again in boxing, Cotto could afford a loss because of the record, Margarito could not, period. If Marg lost that fight he would never have a chance to make 7 figures again, of course he's gonna use in that fight if he used against Mosley. A guy who was at the time looked upon as being on the last leg of his career, also just the fact that he had to use against an old man at the end of his career speaks wonders about the confidence Marg and/or his trainer had in the Marg as a fighter. If you really believe your fighter is on an elite level you should never stoop that low, because the skills of your fighter should always be enough to win.

Damn logic. Jejeje. Co-sign!!!

[ox805er]

cool..

I respect you opinion but regarding Trinidad get your facts straight. It was never about plaster it was about the particular way Papa Tito wrapped his hands that ****m had a problem with. No plaster of paris bro. That's a whole different level. Other than that I totally respect your post even if I disagree with a few of your points.

thanks and I respect what you're saying.. but unfortunately all i did is googled "plaster of paris, tito trinidad" and i found couple articles where richardson points out stuff falling out of the wraps.. but like i said ny athletic commission is/was different, everyone was asking for margarito's head, but when tito did it (maybe cause of his drawing power and $$ cow status) the commission didnt even test the substances... i mean mayorga gave him plenty of free shots and still took him a while to sit him down.. i dont have nothing against cotto or tito, i just feel tito did more damage to other fighters and his legacy is still in tact..

but then again it's only my opinion..


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[aztecadq]

truth is that the doubt is still in cotto's mind.. like there's doubt in all PR fans.. cause their boxer lost that night.. or quit.. whatever they wanna call it.. or margarito cheated.. i'm getting tired of hearing this from all the margarito haters.. i'm not supporting him.. i'm just stating facts.. i like him.. he's action, thrills, entertainment.. maybe not as skilled as others but a granite chin will do.. the way i see it.. if he was using plaster, there would be a lot more boxers affected with this.. let's take a look... p willy (champion).. martinez (champion), mosley (champion), cotto (champion), santos (champion), cintron (contender, not much of one but still), clottey (champion, robbed but contender) and i'm sure i could of missed a couple.. i mean all these guys are doing ok... i mean i remember when there was nobody talking **** about trinidad.. and he was also caught with plaster.. whether the new york state commission decided to look the other way is irrelevant.. and he single handly ruin an up an comer like vargas.. cause he was not the same.. plaster punches to the nut must really hurt...

get over it.. it happened, it's probably more common than people think.. just when he comes back you'll have two options... watch him come back to the top.. or watch him get written off.. all else aside.. he's still a draw.. and if his comeback fight is at staples.. then be it.. i'll go!!

nobody complained when 2 low blows took judah's legs for the cotto fight!! and PR fighters known for low blows..

Good Post


Whether you hate him or not- Margarito will either flop or move up with a comeback. And if he climbs the ranks- there might be a point in time where Cotto has to face him again. Or if he flops- we as boxing fans will never have to hear about him again.

[-Mbandit-]

It has nothing to do with Mosley's chin or his power. The fact is that the Cotto/Marg fight was THE fight into superstardom in getting a fight with DLH and other big names. It was the biggest fight for both Cotto and Marg, it was bigger than the Marg/Mosley fight. If Marg lost the Cotto fight he wouldn't even have been talked about again in boxing, Cotto could afford a loss because of the record, Margarito could not, period. If Marg lost that fight he would never have a chance to make 7 figures again, of course he's gonna use in that fight if he used against Mosley. A guy who was at the time looked upon as being on the last leg of his career, also just the fact that he had to use against an old man at the end of his career speaks wonders about the confidence Marg and/or his trainer had in the Marg as a fighter. If you really believe your fighter is on an elite level you should never stoop that low, because the skills of your fighter should always be enough to win.

You do make some very good points and I give you props for that!

[aztecadq]

I do find it awkward that Margarito is going to be in Vegas for one of COTTO'S BIGGEST FIGHTS OF HIS LIFE. That **** is crazy !!!!