why is segrio martinez fighting p-will at 160?????

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  • tocayito1
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    #31
    Originally posted by RealDeal90
    this make no sense to me.

    segrio is a champ at 154 and it should be at his weight on his terms and not on paul. WTF did paul do to make segrio move up in weight to fight him, beat the "stationary defense" winky wright (no disrespect to winky or paul)? it's not like paul can't make weight. i can only think of the reason that segrio is moving up cause of $$$$$ but if that the case why can't it be at 154??

    i just think the weight will affect him and he won't be able to bring his best vs paul. this just a way for HBO to get paul more names....


    just something that on my mind since this fight started.
    its because the fight is on short notice and he probably doesnt have enough time to get down to 154 but it doesnt matter hes 400 times the fighter pwills overrated ass is

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #32
      This is what I would call nit-picking, the fight is the same at 154 or 160 both guys are light for middleweight.

      How does the fight really change at 160 that makes it a lesser fight other then a 154 trinket not being on the line. It is the same damn fight, correct me if I am wrong but Martinez has said he would fight anyone at 160 it is a more glamourus divison then 154 and a win over Williams there would be big for him in boxing circles.

      I still fail to see any of your issues~

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        This is what I would call nit-picking, the fight is the same at 154 or 160 both guys are light for middleweight.

        How does the fight really change at 160 that makes it a lesser fight other then a 154 trinket not being on the line. It is the same damn fight, correct me if I am wrong but Martinez has said he would fight anyone at 160 it is a more glamourus divison then 154 and a win over Williams there would be big for him in boxing circles.

        I still fail to see any of your issues~
        As far as I know Martine is a better fighter at 154 than at MW until proven other wise. It means more at 154. Is a better fight at 154. Just like Pac-Cotto is better at 147 than 145, just like Hatton-Mayweather would of been better at 140 than 147, just like Junma Lopez-Caballero is better, it means more, and it should be at 122 than at 126. Pavlik-Taylor meant more at MW than it did at 166. Basically yes technically you are right. All this fights is/was the same at a different. However, it meant/means more at the original weights. Does it make sense now?

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        • boxaholic
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          #34
          Originally posted by RealDeal90
          it not the belt im talking about. im talking bout him moving up in weight to fight paul. don't see any point to it other than $$$$$ and bumping up paul resume.

          im just all for intresting fights. @ 160 don't sound as intresting to me.
          I agree. Its a win win situation for everyone except us due to Pwill having another advantage over Martinez

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            #35
            Cuz Pwill was gettin ready for a MW fight and ain't wanna drop down on short notice. I wish it was for the WBC belt at 154, but **** it. I still like the fight.

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              #36
              Because Martinez is an avoided fighter that is hard to look good against and not many want to fight him.....so he has to take what notable fights are offered to him.....at least he is willing to step up and take fights while not making excuses about why he shouldn't fight anyone so I give him alot of credit......Also He is pretty sexy too.


































              no ****

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              • Iceta
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                #37
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                Because Martinez is an avoided fighter that is hard to look good against and not many want to fight him.....so he has to take what notable fights are offered to him.....at least he is willing to step up and take fights while not making excuses about why he shouldn't fight anyone so I give him alot of credit......Also He is pretty sexy too.
































                no ****
                Reported for ***ggotry on the realio.

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                  #38
                  Its called moving up in weight to challenge yourself....

                  Liek Pac, Floyd and Paul Williams seem to do alot of.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Iceta
                    Reported for ***ggotry on the realio.
                    Its not the 1st offense

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                    • The Gambler1981
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      As far as I know Martine is a better fighter at 154 than at MW until proven other wise. It means more at 154. Is a better fight at 154. Just like Pac-Cotto is better at 147 than 145, just like Hatton-Mayweather would of been better at 140 than 147, just like Junma Lopez-Caballero is better, it means more, and it should be at 122 than at 126. Pavlik-Taylor meant more at MW than it did at 166. Basically yes technically you are right. All this fights is/was the same at a different. However, it meant/means more at the original weights. Does it make sense now?
                      As far as I know Williams and Martinez will be the same men in the ring, this would not be Martinez's first trip to 160 and you are acting liek Williams has been a 160 pounder his whole career. It was a bull**** arguement for the Mayweather-Hatton fight and it is a bull**** arguement now, they are the same men and they are of similar size so it really does not play that big of a role. The only thing different is that a trinket is not on the line, fighters make the titles not the other way around.


                      In the old days anything over 147 would be a middleweight fight, so it is just like teh old days to smaller guys fighting at 160 it should not be a big deal at all.

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