The difference between Haye and Dirrell.

[Bad Boy Dazza]

Neither Haye nor Hopkins fell over on purpose multiple times as a tactic to avoid being hit.

[Roger Mellie]

I wouldn't score a fight based off the size difference between fighters......thats being BIAS towards the smaller man......IMO Haye, Dirrell, and Hopkins fought similiar fights against Valuev, Froch, and Calzaghe......I had Haye, Dirrell and Hopkins winning ALL those fights!!....no differnce.....they all landed the more cleaner affective shots!!......avoiding the incoming while scoring on the move!!

You must be crazy having Hopkins beating Calzaghe. I think you got it the wrong way round!

[Mr. Philadel]

You must be crazy having Hopkins beating Calzaghe. I think you got it the wrong way round!

no really.....I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe......like many many many many others!!.....there's ALOT of people who share this thought!!

[Roger Mellie]

no really.....I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe......like many many many many others!!.....there's ALOT of people who share this thought!!

I had Calzaghe winning. I was only pulling your leg though!

[AKATheMack]

I know they fought similar fights, but Haye had good reason to hit and run this reason is 7 feet tall and 7 stone heavier than him, it was the tactics needed for a fight like this, and more impressive in the heavyweight division.

Dirrell had no reason to fight like this, himself and Froch were the same size, weight and height, give or take a little bit. He had no reason to run like he did.

Haye was dwarfed by a giant, Dirrell wasn't.

We could flip that around and say Dirrell ran from a bigger puncher than himself, Haye did not.

[Bigchill79]

Haye didnt once try to do the viennese

[The_Visitation]

IMO Haye, Dirrell, and Hopkins fought similiar fights against Valuev, Froch, and Calzaghe......I had Haye, Dirrell and Hopkins winning ALL those fights!!....no differnce.....they all landed the more cleaner affective shots!!

BS. There were similarities between Froch/Dirrell and Valuev/Haye, maybe, but it's idiotic to group Calzaghe/Hopkins with them. For a start, Dirrell and Haye both outlanded their opponents while Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins 2-1!

The 'cleaner, effective' thing is also BS, as it usually is. In what way were Dirrell's punches 'effective'? They didn't change Froch's gameplan, or aggression, in the slightest throughout the course of the fight. Froch was never seriously hurt and finished the fight looking like he had just got back from a jog in the park.. so how, exactly, are Dirrell's punches supposed to have been 'effective'? In contrast, B-Hop's punching was effective, as was Calzaghe's.. both dictated the fight at different times and forced their opponent to try and adapt. It's no coincidence both Zag and B-Hop are a class above any of the other four fighters we are talking about.

[Roger Mellie]

BS. There were similarities between Froch/Dirrell and Valuev/Haye, maybe, but it's idiotic to group Calzaghe/Hopkins with them. For a start, Dirrell and Haye both outlanded their opponents while Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins 2-1!

The 'cleaner, effective' thing is also BS, as it usually is. In what way were Dirrell's punches 'effective'? They didn't change Froch's gameplan, or aggression, in the slightest throughout the course of the fight. Froch was never seriously hurt and finished the fight looking like he had just got back from a jog in the park.. so how, exactly, are Dirrell's punches supposed to have been 'effective'? In contrast, B-Hop's punching was effective, as was Calzaghe's.. both dictated the fight at different times and forced their opponent to try and adapt. It's no coincidence both Zag and B-Hop are a class above any of the other four fighters we are talking about.

Brilliant post. k given.

[slimshandy69]

And Froch should have gotten a point deducted for all the hitting to the back of the head and for piledriving Dirrell.

dirrell should have been deducted a point for showing the back of his head while trying to give froch a bj...

Froch won by 3 rounds that hook froch landed in the 8th got dirrell mad holding..

[Blue Heffner]

no really.....I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe......like many many many many others!!.....there's ALOT of people who share this thought!!

I also had Hopkins winning.

And for Froch-Dirrell, they will fight again in the future, and he will finish Froch next time. This'll wake all these delusional Froch fans up.