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  • #31
    the right man won last night, the wrong man did in the froch fight

    i'm fairly certain dirrell actually landed more on froch than haye did on valuev also

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Syf View Post
      Valuev is widely regarded as one of the weaker punchers in the HW division, despite his size.

      Froch however, has pretty good punching power, and definitely had the ability to knock Dirrell out if he caught Dirrell at all, hence Dirrell's tactics.

      BUT... Dirrell was hitting Froch more and with more cleaner shots than Haye did to Valuev...though I did like Haye's 12th round.

      The only difference between Haye and Dirrell in those two fights is size, a bit of holding, and most of all nationality

      c'mon... admit it
      why did froch bloody dirrells face after just 4 rounds...why did dirrell legs go in the 8th round hook by froch...comon admit it froch won easily..

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      • #33
        Originally posted by S.G. View Post
        the right man won last night, the wrong man did in the froch fight

        i'm fairly certain dirrell actually landed more on froch than haye did on valuev also
        did you reincarnate into stevie wonder when you watched the froch dirrell fight are are you that ugly and ******???please pick a choice...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22 View Post
          I know they fought similar fights, but Haye had good reason to hit and run this reason is 7 feet tall and 7 stone heavier than him, it was the tactics needed for a fight like this, and more impressive in the heavyweight division.

          Dirrell had no reason to fight like this, himself and Froch were the same size, weight and height, give or take a little bit. He had no reason to run like he did.

          Haye was dwarfed by a giant, Dirrell wasn't.
          Ohhhh.. so when you fight a bigger man, you should move. OK.

          Thanks. I'll remember that.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
            I wouldn't score a fight based off the size difference between fighters......thats being BIAS towards the smaller man......IMO Haye, Dirrell, and Hopkins fought similiar fights against Valuev, Froch, and Calzaghe......I had Haye, Dirrell and Hopkins winning ALL those fights!!....no differnce.....they all landed the more cleaner affective shots!!......avoiding the incoming while scoring on the move!!
            I had Dirrell and Haye winning, but there is no way Hopkins Calzaghe was a similar fight. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins and Hopkins gassed badly. I don't know to this day why people think Hopkins won that fight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22 View Post
              I know they fought similar fights, but Haye had good reason to hit and run this reason is 7 feet tall and 7 stone heavier than him, it was the tactics needed for a fight like this, and more impressive in the heavyweight division.

              Dirrell had no reason to fight like this, himself and Froch were the same size, weight and height, give or take a little bit. He had no reason to run like he did.

              Haye was dwarfed by a giant, Dirrell wasn't.
              The only difference is that dirrellgot robbed and haye didnt

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              • #37
                Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22 View Post
                I know they fought similar fights, but Haye had good reason to hit and run this reason is 7 feet tall and 7 stone heavier than him, it was the tactics needed for a fight like this, and more impressive in the heavyweight division.

                Dirrell had no reason to fight like this, himself and Froch were the same size, weight and height, give or take a little bit. He had no reason to run like he did.

                Haye was dwarfed by a giant, Dirrell wasn't.
                Both fighters were implementing a game plan. Dirrell always fights on the back foot and had to do so against a FASTER and much more skilled opponent then Valuev. The holding was awful but to say Hayes performance was great and Dirrell was awful make you look terribly biased.
                Pot shotting for 11 rounds is 10x more cowardly and less skillful. a featherweight could have won that fight against Valuev with Hayes tactics.
                I get so sick of the idiots on this site.
                Neither Dirrell or Haye should be proud of their performances but the only difference in this fight is that Haye won! i just hope for the sake of brits everywhere that David Haye never fights like this again.

                After all that **** talking about a knock out Haye just gave us another boring ass Heavyweight fight. Thanks prick.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by USA_Pugilist View Post
                  Dirrell always fights on the back foot and had to do so against a FASTER and much more skilled opponent then Valuev.
                  say it's about even except, froch's got some power

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
                    why did froch bloody dirrells face after just 4 rounds...why did dirrell legs go in the 8th round hook by froch...comon admit it froch won easily..
                    Pic of Dirrell's bloody face please.

                    I would be for sure you'd have that in your sig, being who you are, if that was actually true.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by iDarren View Post
                      Dirrell was actually falling over on purpose to avoid being hit. A disgrace and to award him victory would have been a dark day for boxing.
                      How do you know it was intentional?

                      Maybe the kid was just exhausted, and also very shaken by Froch's dirty tactics? HItting the back of the head... strangling on the ropes, body slamming..hitting on the breaks? ect? And the ref wasn't doing anything to stop it..that had to have been at least somewhat demoralizing for the kid.

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