Double standards with Chad Dawson and Miguel Cotto.

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  • boxasmash
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    #21
    WTF Cotto vs Mosley was some of the most brutal exchanges this decade.

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      What this is based on is even wrong.

      Cotto gets SO much **** for how he fought in the late rounds against Mosley and Clottey. Your acting like everyone praises him, that's bull**** he gets more **** for that than Dawson does.

      And, when he started boxing against Mosley, he was very far ahead on the cards. The fight tightened up when Mosley came on in the 9th and 10th. After 8 it was like 6-2. Mosley also re-opened the cut inside Cotto's mouth from the Judah fight.

      In the Clottey fight, yea he was moving, cause he couldn't see any right hands coming, he had to be careful. And when it mattered, he stepped up in the championship rounds.

      People go out of their way to criticize Cotto and Dawson. It's really ****ing ******.
      Good post.

      A lot of people fail to recall the fact that Mosley was the guy who started boxing and moving first when Cotto started to outland them in their exchanges in the 4th, 5th and part of the 6th round. Mosley changed his tactics toward the end of the 6th and it helped him. Cotto then changed his tactics, but for some reason Cotto gets **** for it where Mosley's change was perceived as a smart move.

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      • Iceta
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        #23
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Good post.

        A lot of people fail to recall the fact that Mosley was the guy who started boxing and moving first when Cotto started to outland them in their exchanges in the 4th, 5th and part of the 6th round. Mosley changed his tactics toward the end of the 6th and it helped him. Cotto then changed his tactics, but for some reason Cotto gets **** for it where Mosley's change was perceived as a smart move.
        The parts of the fight of where each guy was the aggressor they won. This is why I don't understand why people claim that Cotto won the rounds of where he supposedly boxed. He pulled the 11th round out though. But Mosley is just one fight. He ran against Clottey and Margo too. Most people who have bad cuts over their eyes try to KO their opponents (except for Campell obviously) to keep it from going to the cards like James Toney did against that one guy and the way Gatti always used to at least try to do. But Cotto is a warrior just because he stayed away from exchanges.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Iceta
          The parts of the fight of where each guy was the aggressor they won. This is why I don't understand why people claim that Cotto won the rounds of where he supposedly boxed. He pulled the 11th round out though. But Mosley is just one fight. He ran against Clottey and Margo too. Most people who have bad cuts over their eyes try to KO their opponents (except for Campell obviously) to keep it from going to the cards like James Toney did against that one guy and the way Gatti always used to at least try to do. But Cotto is a warrior just because he stayed away from exchanges.
          cotto won the fight

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          • savorduhflavor
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            #25
            Originally posted by Iceta
            The parts of the fight of where each guy was the aggressor they won. This is why I don't understand why people claim that Cotto won the rounds of where he supposedly boxed. He pulled the 11th round out though. But Mosley is just one fight. He ran against Clottey and Margo too. Most people who have bad cuts over their eyes try to KO their opponents (except for Campell obviously) to keep it from going to the cards like James Toney did against that one guy and the way Gatti always used to at least try to do. But Cotto is a warrior just because he stayed away from exchanges.
            I know you try and say you're not a Cotto hater, but you are. Whether you wanna see it or not, you are.

            Look at the 3 people he's done that against...Margarito, Mosley, and Clottey. 3 guys that are VERY difficult to hurt. When you feel you have a lead, and you don't feel that you can KO the guy, you win the fight the smart way. There is nothing wrong with that.

            And even in the rounds where Cotto "ran" against Mosley, they were still competitive rounds. You can make a case for him even winning the 9th as Mosley didn't do **** for the first half of the round. The 10th was a close round too as Cotto really came on towards the end.

            Straight up man, not tryin to be a **** but you only see what you want to see.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Dambala
              Both guys are great fighters. You have to give some credit to Dawson because he's not a puncher and he's fighting guys who can end a fight with one punch, he's not taking unnecessary risks on those fights because he just dominate with his skills.

              In the case of Cotto, he just opted to box with Margarito, Clottey and Mosley, three iron chinned welterweight, not without having trade with them before. In the Clottey's fight it's understandable due to his cut, you know he could've asked his corner to stop the fight and win a decision in rds #4 or #5 because he was clearly ahead on the scorecards. Both fighters deserve credit, but it's ok if you don't like them.
              Great post

              I like to add that fighters like Dawson, Floyd, Cotto, Dirrell, and Haye don't like pressure. So the **** what. They do what they have to do to win even if they have to get on there backfoot. The game is to be hit and not get hit. Calderon has a similar style. It's funny I don't hear nobody talking **** about him. To much Nationalistic Pride on this site.

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              • oldgringo
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                #27
                Originally posted by Iceta
                The parts of the fight of where each guy was the aggressor they won. This is why I don't understand why people claim that Cotto won the rounds of where he supposedly boxed. He pulled the 11th round out though. But Mosley is just one fight. He ran against Clottey and Margo too. Most people who have bad cuts over their eyes try to KO their opponents (except for Campell obviously) to keep it from going to the cards like James Toney did against that one guy and the way Gatti always used to at least try to do. But Cotto is a warrior just because he stayed away from exchanges.
                God help you.

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                • Freddy Krueger
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                  #28
                  Cotto beats the **** out of fighters, Dawson doesn't. They don't fight anything alike. Cotto likes to exchange punches with his opponents at times, while Dawson punches and runs.

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                  • flyest1
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                    #29
                    Dawson boxed well last night. Some should blame his oppenent for only being one D. Why fight a ****** fight and take the chance to get caught again like the last time.

                    Whoever said Cotto was putting on a clinic against Margo is crazy. It was obvious that Margo's pressure was giving him problems. By the 6th round Margo was putting in work. Cotto was on his backfoot the entire fight.

                    To much nationalistic pride and people only see what they want to see in fights. There us no way in hell that Cotto dominated Mosley in that fight.

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                    • Iceta
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                      #30
                      Bump......................

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