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  • S A M U R A I
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    #71
    Originally posted by street bully
    Calzaghe feinted where exactly, please show the clip?
    You're kidding Bully? It was very obvious to me how Joe adapted to Hopkins -- by trying to counter-punch the counter-puncher. Joe would jab or feint, step back and wait for Hopkins to counter, then move in and try to get his shots off. I thought everyone could see this, because he did it for half the fight.

    Hopkins was banking on that right hand, and it would have been much more effective had Joe not adapted. You can pretty much see him adapting on-the-fly.



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      #72
      Originally posted by street bully
      Hopkins wont come forward and Chad will have to, and having the much better defense will win it for Hopkins.
      What if he doesn't come forward, and just uses that long jab and speed advantage to pile up points and win a boring decision? I don't see the old version of Hopkins forcing an inside fight opening himself up to counters. The inside his Hopkins best chance to win so it would be ****** of Dawson to be aggressive and aid him.

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        #73


        What happened to this Jermain...

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        • cooper5
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          #74
          I don't know, I think once upon a time Hopkins could, but I doubt he can now.
          I doubt he'd fight him anyways. Him and Jones Jr didn't want him before I doubt they will want him now.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Hard enough to use that as an example when neither could beat Bernard decisively.
            That's shows that the judges favors more work being done by the busier fighter. Dawson would definitely out throw Hopkins( who i expect to fade in the later rounds from the pace that Dawson would set).


            Originally posted by street bully
            Homue, your crazy. The only one getting feinted was Calzaghe, who came in windmilling. also Hopkins was never buzzed against Taylor he was off balance once and that was it. I assume the big punchers Hopkins faced would buzz him if he could get buzzed.
            4:06. Tell me why Hopkins clinched as tight as he did after that overhand right landed that drove him into the ropes? It looked like it landed on the shoulder but in reality, it landed on the side of Hopkins face because he bent down into it,. Lampley (who was only a few inchess away from the ring) called it the same way i did.

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              #76
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              You're kidding Bully? It was very obvious to me how Joe adapted to Hopkins -- by trying to counter-punch the counter-puncher. Joe would jab or feint, step back and wait for Hopkins to counter, then move in and try to get his shots off. I thought everyone could see this, because he did it for half the fight.

              Hopkins was banking on that right hand, and it would have been much more effective had Joe not adapted. You can pretty much see him adapting on-the-fly.
              Calzaghe tried to box early, and then changed to simply keep on throwing no matter what he hit. I really didn't see feints.

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                #77
                Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                That's shows that the judges favors more work being done by the busier fighter. Dawson would definitely out throw Hopkins( who i expect to fade in the later rounds from the pace that Dawson would set).




                4:06. Tell me why Hopkins clinched as tight as he did after that overhand right landed that drove him into the ropes? It looked like it landed on the shoulder but in reality, it landed on the side of Hopkins face because he bent down into it,. Lampley (who was only a few inchess away from the ring) called it the same way i did.
                1. Chad doesn't fight at a pace like Calzaghe or Taylor...

                2. I highly doubt Bernard was hurt, it clearly seems like he lost his balance...Bernard ducked real low and Jermain caught him on the side of the head...but w/e...Bernard had Taylor in more trouble later on...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  That's shows that the judges favors more work being done by the busier fighter. Dawson would definitely out throw Hopkins( who i expect to fade in the later rounds from the pace that Dawson would set).




                  4:06. Tell me why Hopkins clinched as tight as he did after that overhand right landed that drove him into the ropes? It looked like it landed on the shoulder but in reality, it landed on the side of Hopkins face because he bent down into it,. Lampley (who was only a few inchess away from the ring) called it the same way i did.

                  Lol, he got hit on the shoulder while off balance, then Taylor shoved him with his right forearm. I really haven't seen anone this year say Hopkins was stunned by that. Its a clear shove atfe he gets hit on the shoulder. Also Hopkins has only seemed to fade once (he also had a thyroud condition at the time) How many times has Dawson faded?
                  Last edited by street bully; 11-08-2009, 03:10 AM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The_Executioner
                    1. Chad doesn't fight at a pace like Calzaghe or Taylor...

                    2. I highly doubt Bernard was hurt, it clearly seems like he lost his balance...Bernard ducked real low and Jermain caught him on the side of the head...but w/e
                    Don't forget the forearm shove. Hurt is what Taylor was int he 12.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      That's shows that the judges favors more work being done by the busier fighter. Dawson would definitely out throw Hopkins( who i expect to fade in the later rounds from the pace that Dawson would set).
                      More like favor the up and comer.

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