Mayweather is single-handedly making the sport of boxing evolve

[Talon]

Fighters are watching him and picking things up. he might not have invented shoulder roll but he has people mimicking him, he might not have been the first to have head movement but i see haye copying him vs JMM against valuev. its not just 2 people doing the same hting you can clearly see people mimicking floyd in training and in the ring. He might not be your fav fighter.. but he is making everyone that watches better at boxing. Just something I thought of while watching haye vs valuev.. You can agree or disagree but I have been in the ring myself and have some knowledge of what skills some people do and don't have. Who's the boxer that everyone was mad at for coming in overweight, dark guy from south america or something? He clearly copies floyd in training. Garuntee he wasnt doing that **** on the pads before. Im not saying anyone with skills copies floyd or anyone good at boxing copies floyd. Just sometimes it's obvious to me. Some good fighters copy tyson, foreman. Floyd style isnt the only good one. I'm just saying he's educating people and making them think.

p.s. you can learn a thing or two from many well-known fighters, not just the ones known for skill. you're better off learning the basics first anyways

[Clyde Barrow]

Come on mate. Dawson and Johnson are fighting. Haye just fought Valuev. Do PBF stans go into convulsions when the main forum is not littered with recycled threads about him?

[johncods]

Thus killing boxing...

[AntonTheMeh]

I'm a floyd fan, but please, shut the **** up.this thread is nonsense.

[them_apples]

Fighters are watching him and picking things up. he might not have invented shoulder roll but he has people mimicking him, he might not have been the first to have head movement but i see haye copying him vs JMM against valuev. its not just 2 people doing the same hting you can clearly see people mimicking floyd in training and in the ring. He might not be your fav fighter.. but he is making everyone that watches better at boxing. Just something I thought of while watching haye vs valuev.. You can agree or disagree but I have been in the ring myself and have some knowledge of what skills some people do and don't have. Who's the boxer that everyone was mad at for coming in overweight, dark guy from south america or something? He clearly copies floyd in training. Garuntee he wasnt doing that **** on the pads before. Im not saying anyone with skills copies floyd or anyone good at boxing copies floyd. Just sometimes it's obvious to me. Some good fighters copy tyson, foreman. Floyd style isnt the only good one. I'm just saying he's educating people and making them think.

p.s. you can learn a thing or two from many well-known fighters, not just the ones known for skill. you're better off learning the basics first anyways

Guzman was trained by Floyd sr.

[boxasmash]

Haye always fought that way, besides he fights more like Roy Jones than Mayweather.

[johnm is...]

I'm a floyd fan, but please, shut the **** up.this thread is nonsense.

+1

And your sig is great.

[HeartAttack]

Fighters are watching him and picking things up. he might not have invented shoulder roll but he has people mimicking him, he might not have been the first to have head movement but i see haye copying him vs JMM against valuev. its not just 2 people doing the same hting you can clearly see people mimicking floyd in training and in the ring. He might not be your fav fighter.. but he is making everyone that watches better at boxing. Just something I thought of while watching haye vs valuev.. You can agree or disagree but I have been in the ring myself and have some knowledge of what skills some people do and don't have. Who's the boxer that everyone was mad at for coming in overweight, dark guy from south america or something? He clearly copies floyd in training. Garuntee he wasnt doing that **** on the pads before. Im not saying anyone with skills copies floyd or anyone good at boxing copies floyd. Just sometimes it's obvious to me. Some good fighters copy tyson, foreman. Floyd style isnt the only good one. I'm just saying he's educating people and making them think.

p.s. you can learn a thing or two from many well-known fighters, not just the ones known for skill. you're better off learning the basics first anyways

My God this is some of the most ignorant **** I've read. I almost pity you, but more-so I'm glad I'm not you. Thousands of fighters have fought like Floyd through the years some have employed the exact same techniques with the exact same abilities but not the same dedication or focus. Some have done it better, most have done it worst. Floyd just does what's right defensively and others try to do what's right defensively too. They're not copying Floyd, just following the blue-print laid down before by guys like Pep, Johnson, Robinson, Moore, Charles, Duran so on and so forth. Now if Floyd would follow those guys in terms of offense and we'd have something special there.

[Talon]

i agree that haye is more like jones but jones uses more foot movement and less head movement, and haye was clearly micking floyd in that fight. with a little of young jones' wildness near the end. by the way haye did wobble valuev with the left hook in the 12th! i didnt say it was a big deal! if you don't like the thread don't open it. just starting a little conversation as I wait for pacquiao cotto 24/7 in 15 minutes, then after that the johnson dawson fight

[mathed]

Mayweather copied the roll from Toney, now who is really responsible for what?