I'm a college wrestler. I weigh 220 lbs. I can beat any pro boxer in a fight.

[JohnCIV6]

Oh ****, i found numa, the big white dude.. WTF Mercer is in the octagon??

[rao007]

That would be both.

In an mma match--wrestling. In real life--boxing is more relevant. I got friends with me, do you think your wrestling is going to do jack **** if we're all pounding on you?

You don't want to believe me? okay. Here's my little buddy, Urijah Faber, to tell you a good story about a place called Bali.

[Numa]

What good boxer ever fought in mma dillhole.

Mercer... hell he even lost to Kimbo who had a very limited groundgame. Imagine if he went up against a solid wrestler?

[JulVal]

Mercer... hell he even lost to Kimbo who had a very limited groundgame. Imagine if he went up against a solid wrestler?

Ok. Try imagining putting Pac, Klitch, Valuev, Haye, May, Cotto in MMA. Don't you see how devastating their punch is w/ pads? Oh and do you think you'll be able to catch someone as quick as May and Pac?

Dream on. One sidestep + Punch and you're down boy. ^^

[Wreckless]

Mercer... hell he even lost to Kimbo who had a very limited groundgame. Imagine if he went up against a solid wrestler?

You're basing your facts on Mercer? the same ancient Mercer that was in his late 40's when going up against Kimbo? haha

[rao007]

Numa I'm waiting for a response.

[ThePunchingBag]

On the streets, any striking form is more valuable than a grappling art. You never know if you'll fight more than 1 person. Wrestling becomes useless if you're fighting multiple opponents. I doubt the TS could take a shot to the liver from Mike Tyson or even a Rabbit Punch from Mike. He says Boxer's haven't been trained for takedowns, Wrestlers haven't been trained in the art of lateral movement and defense against punches.

I've sparred many wrestlers in my day and I can say from experience that most wrestlers think their hot stuff until they take a knee to the face or an elbow to the back of the neck. Wrestling is a 1v1 fighting art and it has it's place in combat, but it's limited to one opponent only. I'd say that a Muay Thai fighter has the skills to destroy a wrestler. Lightning fast knees and elbows. Without MMA or Wrestling rules a Striker can hit the neck, throat, eyes, groin, back of the head, areas that most wrestler's don't bother defending.

That being said, anything can happen in a fight and while I respect the TS's confidence in himself and Bruce Lee-like attitude, I will now stop feeding the troll.

[Bender88]

OP your a ****ing knob.

You act like a boxer had 0 sprawl or defense to your unstoppable takedowns.

If Cro Cop can Sprawl all Americans such as Randleman and Coleman do you think Tyson, Lennox ect would have no sprawl ?

Id love to see you get in the ring with one and get Ko'ed shooting.

[rao007]

OP your a ****ing knob.

You act like a boxer had 0 sprawl or defense to your unstoppable takedowns.

If Cro Cop can Sprawl all Americans such as Randleman and Coleman do you think Tyson, Lennox ect would have no sprawl ?

Id love to see you get in the ring with one and get Ko'ed shooting.

Well, Crocop prepared for takedowns. What TS is saying if we put a boxer with no preparation, with little to no TD defense, and only had later movement as a way to evade takedowns. In mma, that may be applicable but not in real life.

[Numa]

In an mma match--wrestling. In real life--boxing is more relevant. I got friends with me, do you think your wrestling is going to do jack **** if we're all pounding on you?

You don't want to believe me? okay. Here's my little buddy, Urijah Faber, to tell you a good story about a place called Bali.

If you jump a dude with friends what does it prove?