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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #41
    Originally posted by Jack D Ripper
    You're ducking criticism.



    Face it like a man.
    Not really. You gotta admit, Black looks alot better then Red or Green.

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    • The Dice
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Not true great fights will benefit boxing in the long run. You put on weak ass fights and that is when the talk of "that is whats wrong with boxing" or "boxing is dying" and "MMA is better". Oscar-Floyd did not bring in no new fans. People found it boxing and it had garbage ass undercard. You have Mike Wilbon is a casual fan on PTI saying Mayweather-Marquez is boring. How does that help the sport in the long run?

      You have non fans and you show them Ward-Gatti, Marquez-Vazquez, Marquez-Diaz. And, they will become fans of the sport. True story I met this guy he is 18 or 19yrs from Baytown TX. He over heard a conversation I was having with a friend about a boxing fight. So he got into it. He is a casual fan. Does not know much about the sport. I asked him who is his favorite fighter. He said right now nobody but Corrales was his favorite. And, I ask why Corrales? He said he saw him fight this one Mexican and he saw Corrales get up from 2 knockdowns and KO'd the Mexican. He said that is when he became a fan of boxing. And, Corrales became his favorite. In case you don't know he was talking about Corrales-Castillo. Fight of the Millenium.

      The point is. Huge ass #s with weak ass fights does not bring new fans. Weak ass fights is what keeps people away and drives casual fans away. Great fights brings in new fans and keeps the sport alive. And, anybody who loves the sport, is a fan of the sport. Woud rather have great competitive fights. But, somehow you don't. Which is quite odd... But, to each is own.

      This point is just plain horrible and quite frankly embarrassing.
      Oscar – Floyd was great fight for boxing. This fight helped set up Hatton/Floyd. Even one knew who Floyd was after that fight. You could say that fight revived boxing

      Who cares about Corrales-Castillo. That fight didn't help create many new fans. Example PBF-Hatton help create a lot of British interest in boxing. Since Hatton fight with Floyd. People have started taking notice of British fighters. After PBF ko'd Hatton. British men pride was wounded and they needed a new hero. Now they nuthug any decent boxer eg Haye,Froch and so. Hatton/PBF kinda in a way help boxing back into the major picture in English sports.

      I don’t give two ****s about your personal account; this is the internet anyone can make **** up. Look at Jack D Rippers post, he makes things up as he goes

      Boxing is a names games, more people watch the better.

      What do you think did more for Boxing as a whole

      Oscar - PBF v Gatti/Ward

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      • Glamour Puss
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        #43
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        Not really. You gotta admit, Black looks alot better then Red or Green.
        Excuse.

        All I see is boxing scene's version of Bubble Boy.
        (robot voice)
        I am Platano man, I am immune to kaye.....


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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #44
          Originally posted by Jack D Ripper
          Excuse.

          All I see is boxing scene's version of Bubble Boy.
          I am Platano man, I am immune to kaye.....


          You're a funny dude Jack **** had me rolling. I can still be Red or Green K'd but the color Black stays the same. My rep is 15

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          • jrosales13
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            #45
            Originally posted by The Dice
            This point is just plain horrible and quite frankly embarrassing.
            Oscar – Floyd was great fight for boxing. This fight helped set up Hatton/Floyd. Even one knew who Floyd was after that fight. You could say that fight revived boxing

            Who cares about Corrales-Castillo. That fight didn't help create many new fans. Example PBF-Hatton help create a lot of British interest in boxing. Since Hatton fight with Floyd. People have started taking notice of British fighters. After PBF ko'd Hatton. British men pride was wounded and they needed a new hero. Now they nuthug any decent boxer eg Haye,Froch and so. Hatton/PBF kinda in a way help boxing back into the major picture in English sports.

            I don’t give two ****s about your personal account; this is the internet anyone can make **** up. Look at Jack D Rippers post, he makes things up as he goes

            Boxing is a names games, more people watch the better.

            What do you think did more for Boxing as a whole

            Oscar - PBF v Gatti/Ward
            Casual fans were dissapointed in teh Oscar-PBF event. It didn't live up to the hype. It didn't bring no new fans in. The world awaits was suppose to be the "fight to save boxing". And, after that fight casual fans and the meanstream was ready for the MMA takeover. So I will go with Gatti-Ward that fight brought in new fans.

            Look if you have friends that don't watch boxing don't know much about boxing. Show them Gatti-Ward and Oscar-Floyd. And, then asked them which fight they preffered.

            Boxing in big in Europe. Boxing was big in Europe before Floyd-Hatton. Floyd-Hatton didn't do much for UK boxing IMO. Show evidence that it did. British/Europeans fans have always loved there fighters. Before Hatton it was Collins, Eubanks, Benn. even Lennox Lewis. So I don't know where you get that from. Calzaghe could have 20,000 fans chearing in a soccer stadium.. So please show evidence where Floyd-Hatton helped.

            Who cares about Corrales-Castillo? Yea ok that shows how much of a boxing fan you really are.

            And, you know what is fine if you don't believe me. I really don't care I know is the truth. So does all it matters. And, I know I am right about this discussion we are having. And, the more you write, the more you exposing yourself as not a true boxing fan.

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            • Heru
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Dice


              It ain't doing over a million.

              BTW Why didn't Arum ever release Cotto-Margarito numbers officially???
              It did 450k+ when Margarito was basically a nobody outside hardcore boxing fans, just like Pacquiao did against Marquez.

              Trinidad coming off a long layoff sold 500k against RJ, RJ sol 225k the next fight. The PR's will be buying this fight.

              Most that bought Pac's last fight were satisfied customers and will buying this one too. Whether you like it or not, Pacquiao is in the mainstream and this fight will sell over a millie.
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              It's gonna do 1Mill+. This may not be as hyped as Mayweather-Marquez but the fact it is seen as competitive could compensate for that, atleast I think so.
              I agree. Other than the piss drinking, I don't see much difference in the promo or hype of Mayweather-Marquez. Cotto doing 450 just off of hype, against a nobody, tells me all I need to know about how this fight will sell.

              It will definitely hit a mil and I'll be bumping this thread as soon as it's confirmed.

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              • kadyo's
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                #47
                Originally posted by The Dice
                Let be rational here people.

                No way does Pac-Cotto do 1 million PPV. If Floyd-Hatton couldn’t how will these guys

                Hatton-Floyd are two English speaking fighters. Cotto and Pacmans English is horrible, JMM speaks better English. It very hard to sell the fight itself

                Compare it to PBF-Hatton
                Black v White
                Two undefeated fighters
                Brawler v Slick Fighter
                America v Britain
                Product of a American ****** v Product of English ******
                Humble underdog v Arrogant P4P best

                What does Cotto-Pac have??
                Hispanic v Asian, no real rivalry here
                Puerto v Philippines, nothing to see here
                Steroid user v Quitter
                Product of Philippines slum v Product of Rico housing commission
                One fights uncle v One dad eats his dog

                This fight will NOT do 1 million PPV. You need to be realistic
                Time to send you back to REDlandia, flawless.

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                • kadyo's
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Dice
                  This point is just plain horrible and quite frankly embarrassing.
                  Oscar – Floyd was great fight for boxing. This fight helped set up Hatton/Floyd. Even one knew who Floyd was after that fight. You could say that fight revived boxing

                  Who cares about Corrales-Castillo. That fight didn't help create many new fans. Example PBF-Hatton help create a lot of British interest in boxing. Since Hatton fight with Floyd. People have started taking notice of British fighters. After PBF ko'd Hatton. British men pride was wounded and they needed a new hero. Now they nuthug any decent boxer eg Haye,Froch and so. Hatton/PBF kinda in a way help boxing back into the major picture in English sports.

                  I don’t give two ****s about your personal account; this is the internet anyone can make **** up. Look at Jack D Rippers post, he makes things up as he goes

                  Boxing is a names games, more people watch the better.

                  What do you think did more for Boxing as a whole

                  Oscar - PBF v Gatti/Ward
                  Too bad I can't red K you anymore cause somebody just banned you. LOL

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                  • boxingfan_123
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Dice
                    Let be rational here people.

                    No way does Pac-Cotto do 1 million PPV. If Floyd-Hatton couldn’t how will these guys

                    Hatton-Floyd are two English speaking fighters. Cotto and Pacmans English is horrible, JMM speaks better English. It very hard to sell the fight itself

                    Compare it to PBF-Hatton
                    Black v White
                    Two undefeated fighters
                    Brawler v Slick Fighter
                    America v Britain
                    Product of a American ****** v Product of English ******
                    Humble underdog v Arrogant P4P best

                    What does Cotto-Pac have??
                    Hispanic v Asian, no real rivalry here
                    Puerto v Philippines, nothing to see here
                    Steroid user v Quitter
                    Product of Philippines slum v Product of Rico housing commission
                    One fights uncle v One dad eats his dog

                    This fight will NOT do 1 million PPV. You need to be realistic
                    because its competitive either fighter can win and it'll be exiting because they both aren't afraid to lose

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