Santiago: "Cotto has more tools than Juan Manuel Marquez, there is no comparison"

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  • Easy-E
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    #81
    JMM has way more tools and is a more complete fighter. Cotto has a better jab and more power. Thats it.

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    • D-Omonist
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      #82
      Originally posted by Jack D Ripper
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      LOL, of course he's gonna beat him convincingly.

      Pac's not a WW. Cotto's gonna mash on him.
      I guess we will never find out who is better then!!!! Also tell that to everyone else that is betting on Pac to win.

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      • BMWM3P
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        #83
        Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
        Bull****, I have picked Cotto plenty of times here, you can look it up. I have a child from a PR woman you dumbass and lived in PR. I have nothing against PR people. I say **** to respond to other ignorant mother ***ers..



        If you think Cotto has better skills than JMM all I can say is watch some boxing, seriously. Cotto is a hell of a fighter but he's not on JMM's level.



        Someone had to come forward, it wasn't going to be Floyd. Watch the other 49 fights JMM had and come talk to me.....
        I watch a lot of boxing and I'm pretty sure I've been watching boxing for much longer than you. If you think that the only thing Cotto has over Marquez is body work then you should take your own advise. But before you do take those mexican goggles of and forget that Cotto is puertorican.

        What does JMM do that makes him so special? That's what I would like to know. What are these magical skills he possesses? I've seen many of his fights and have yet to see them. I've seen pretty good skills at counterpunches but nothing magical like you make them out to be. You would guess that by the way some of you talk about his skills he would have at least been sort of competitive against Floyd.

        Face it you overate JMM and underate Cotto.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #84
          Originally posted by D-Omonist
          Listen here mofo...not once did I respond to you in an ignorant manner. I had a girl that was Mexican AND...it don't mean ****. Latin men usually put country before everything.

          Let me ask you this though...if Cotto beats Pac convincingly do you still think JMM is better overall?
          To be honest with you, the only reason I am picking Pac over Cotto is because of the speed factor. I think that will be the deciding factor in all of this, not so much in hand speed but in foot speed.

          As far as JMM vs Cotto all time. If Cotto beat's JMM or let's say goes the distance and many people think he wins but doesn't get a decision. Could you put him above JMM with the resume JMM has?

          JMM arguably beat Pac, not once but twice. If Cotto comes out and let's say KO's Pac, I will give him all the credit in the world but at the same time, wouldn't it be a little hypocritical when a lot of people (including myself) criticized Mayweather for beating up a much smaller man?

          I mean Pac started his career at 106! The fact that he's even fighting Cotto and is the favorite is amazing to me, seriously.

          If Cotto beats Pac, it still would be hard for me to pick him as a better fighter than JMM overall in their respective careers. It would catapult Cotto much higher on my all time list though.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            nah, jmm is just better than cotto. but that doesn't mean that cotto isn't gonna win.



            i don't hate cotto, i just don't think he's better than jmm.

            if they were teh same size, jmm would beat cotto. cotto's style can't beat jmm's style.
            You're tripping man, Cotto doesn't have todo a thing and let Marquez come to him. Marquez would lose the fight if Cotto didn't even throw a single punch, the guy is the most one-dimensional P4P. Mayweather CAN lead, but he chooses not to, Manny is one dimensional in the sense that he can't box and has no defense when he's pressured, however, he has fantastic head movement and creates fantastic angles. Marquez can only dream of doing half of what Cotto can do.

            Cotto may not be the BEST pressure fighter, he may not be the best boxer, counter-puncher, have the best footwork, speed, angles, stamina, timing or heart. But just like Marquez has proven you can be REALLY REALLY good at one thing, or as Cotto has proven you can be really good at just about anything and do just as well. I know you're a Cotto hater and that's fine, but to say dumber **** than Forrest Gump like Marquez is better than everything at Cotto, you mom must have purposely slammed you on the tile floor a few hundred times, head first.

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              #86
              Originally posted by D-Omonist
              I guess we will never find out who is better then!!!! Also tell that to everyone else that is betting on Pac to win.
              *** them. If the odds stay the same, I'm putting real money on Cotto.

              Easy money.

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #87
                Originally posted by BMWM3P
                I watch a lot of boxing and I'm pretty sure I've been watching boxing for much longer than you. If you think that the only thing Cotto has over Marquez is body work then you should take your own advise. But before you do take those mexican goggles of and forget that Cotto is puertorican.

                What does JMM do that makes him so special? That's what I would like to know. What are these magical skills he possesses? I've seen many of his fights and have yet to see them. I've seen pretty good skills at counterpunches but nothing magical like you make them out to be. You would guess that by the way some of you talk about his skills he would have at least been sort of competitive against Floyd.

                Face it you overate JMM and underate Cotto.
                Well you better be older than 35 then if you think you have been watching boxing longer than me.

                What makes JMM so special is the fact the guy isn't fast, strong or even has a granite chin, yet has been competitive and even beaten the best pound4 pound fighters of his era.

                JMM is pure SKILL. His counter punching is amazing, his timing is impeccable.
                He fought Mayweather when he had to go up 2 weight classes and is 36 years old.....I mean come on! And you still want to say he's overrated? Seriously? Yet, I'm the one that is seeing fights through "Mexican goggles".

                JMM should have never competed with the likes of Barrera or even Pac but he did. Some say he even beat Pac not once but twice. JMM is not overrated, he is a great fighter who's skill has carried him as far as it has.

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                • lyrical
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                  #88
                  Cotto will win this fight,

                  anyone wanna bet me then send me a PM

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                    To be honest with you, the only reason I am picking Pac over Cotto is because of the speed factor. I think that will be the deciding factor in all of this, not so much in hand speed but in foot speed.

                    As far as JMM vs Cotto all time. If Cotto beat's JMM or let's say goes the distance and many people think he wins but doesn't get a decision. Could you put him above JMM with the resume JMM has?

                    JMM arguably beat Pac, not once but twice. If Cotto comes out and let's say KO's Pac, I will give him all the credit in the world but at the same time, wouldn't it be a little hypocritical when a lot of people (including myself) criticized Mayweather for beating up a much smaller man?

                    I mean Pac started his career at 106! The fact that he's even fighting Cotto and is the favorite is amazing to me, seriously.

                    If Cotto beats Pac, it still would be hard for me to pick him as a better fighter than JMM overall in their respective careers. It would catapult Cotto much higher on my all time list though.
                    No, it wouldn't because Pacman came to Cotto, and Mayweather came to Marquez, plain and simple.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                      To be honest with you, the only reason I am picking Pac over Cotto is because of the speed factor. I think that will be the deciding factor in all of this, not so much in hand speed but in foot speed.

                      As far as JMM vs Cotto all time. If Cotto beat's JMM or let's say goes the distance and many people think he wins but doesn't get a decision. Could you put him above JMM with the resume JMM has?

                      JMM arguably beat Pac, not once but twice. If Cotto comes out and let's say KO's Pac, I will give him all the credit in the world but at the same time, wouldn't it be a little hypocritical when a lot of people (including myself) criticized Mayweather for beating up a much smaller man?

                      I mean Pac started his career at 106! The fact that he's even fighting Cotto and is the favorite is amazing to me, seriously.

                      If Cotto beats Pac, it still would be hard for me to pick him as a better fighter than JMM overall in their respective careers. It would catapult Cotto much higher on my all time list though.
                      Well said man! I understand the beating up the little man thing, but the problem is that almost everyone thinks that Pac does not qualify (mostly cause of what he did to ODLH and Hatton), but I do think that Cotto would have to beat more than just Pac so that peepz agree that he his better than JMM.

                      I just feel that I am one of the few that really believe Cotto is underrated. Hey I might be wrong, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. One of my close friends is Puertorican and he is going for Pac, and we always argue about who is better overall...JMM or Cotto!

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