Cotto vs Pacquiao: Miguel's Hunger Rising, Says Santiago

[boxingfan76]

roach is trying to mentally weaken cotto trying to make him doubt himself,the only thing that translates to is that roach is genuinley nervous about this fight,he say cotto struggles with leftys ,but hes annihialated top leftes like corley,quintana,and judah all those guys had power and incredible speed and all were bigger than pac roach knows this fight isnt a given,pacs not looking as strong against his sparring guys hes not as effective as he was against liteweights well see though

[Dave Rado]

don't try to play that **** with me

you said that pac didn't have a right hand when he fought marquez, and that fight was just before he demolished david diaz with right hooks and even uppercuts

i said no fighter completes his arsenal from one fight to another, and according to you, he did so

btw, quote me on the post where i said that pacquiao hasn't improved. i noticed that you said that to another poster

Okay it was more gradual than that; his right hand had already started to improve well before the Marquez fight, but it has continued to improve since.

[fdotorres]

Okay it was more gradual than that; his right hand had already started to improve well before the Marquez fight, but it has continued to improved since.

how can you measure that?

[Dave Rado]

how can you measure that?

Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but the vast majority of boxing experts share that opinion.

It's also logical. It's undeniable that he used to have a very weak right hand, and that he used to rely completely on his left. It's undeniable that between the time he first fought Barrera and now, his right has improved out of all recognition. It's well known that Roach has put a lot of his training effort in recent fights into developing his right hand. And his right was a major part of his arsenal in all of his last three fights, especially against Hatton. So why would one rationally claim that it suddenly stopped improving after the Marquez fight?

[boxingfan76]

the best thing cotto can do is go back to basics what made him great boxing and incredible body punching, his timing is incredible in the mosley fight, just beat mosley to the punch,and took mosleys shots,unless pac hits like mosley or harder pac will be in a war.

[TOBYLEE1]

Okay it was more gradual than that; his right hand had already started to improve well before the Marquez fight, but it has continued to improved since.

His right hand improve cause his footwork has greatly improved. He doesn't fall in as he used to do before and being in balance allows him to throw properly. His balance is much better and has improved his overall ability

[Iceta]

One thing that hurts Cotto is that he seems to have peaked where as Pacquiao is getting better. Whether or not Pacquiao gets better in this fight remains to be seen. But I don't see a bright future for Cotto even if he wins this fight. He will have no choice but to either fight Shane Mosley in a rematch or move up to 154 because HBO isn't going to let him fight Kendall Holt and Delvin Rodriguez type opponents. He's had his gimmies along with the tough fights, but Arum will have to have him headline Top Rank PPVs if he goes back to fighting a bum. Cotto never has taken two fights in a row of where the outcome was a little bit in doubt until now with Clottey and Pacquiao. He always gets a gimmie fight every other time he gets in the ring. And I don't think he'll make 147 for the rest of his career. And when he moves up, he'll get beat.

[Dave Rado]

Cotto never has taken two fights in a row of where the outcome was a little bit in doubt until now with Clottey and Pacquiao.

Judah followed by Mosley.

As for whether he's peaked, it's too early to tell. You can't judge him based on the Clottey performance because of his eye injury.

[Dave Rado]

His right hand improve cause his footwork has greatly improved. He doesn't fall in as he used to do before and being in balance allows him to throw properly. His balance is much better and has improved his overall ability

I agree. ....

[fdotorres]

Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but the vast majority of boxing experts share that opinion.

yeah, that's why said that he's improved, but the difference isn't as much as mos people make it out to be

diaz was slow, so pacquiao used his speed to set stronger and more complete combos

de la hoya was dead, so pac opted to use more speed and less power to get in and out on DLH while stinging him, instead of hurting him

hatton IMO was a disaster on that fight. he tried to bob and weave and he didn't even know ho to do so, so pac used his speed AND power to put him out of his misery

we'll know how much he's improved on nov 14 i guess