HBO 24/7 ratings are significantly down with Pacquiao/Cotto.

[WhoreUs]

I posted this and the **** put me on ignore.



What a tool. For anyone who doubts the validity of the numbers: http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=975

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[Al Haymon]

Id be willing to that PPV buys are not mutually exclusive to 24/7 viewership. So Pac/Cotto not doing at least 1 million buys would be par for the course considering its lackluster 24/7 ratings.

If you want to draw a linear correlation , and I don't know that you can, then consider this:

The network's first 24/7 series, created for the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, captured the personalities of both fighters — as well as their trainers, entourages and families — and became a must-see series for both boxing fans and reality show buffs.

The show averaged more than 4 million viewers per episode, according to HBO.

-Thomas Umstead, MultiChannel News

Now If you say that the 4 million total viewers translated to 2.4 million buys, and the roughly 2 million viewres for Pac-Hatton resulted in 850K buys, then...

2.44 Mn / 4 Mn = 0.6 conversion rate for The World Awaits
.85 Mn / 2 Mn = 0.43 conversion rate for East vs West

If you take an average and say that the PPV would do about HALF of the 24/7 viewership (based on historical conversion rates) then you can do a fight-week projection based on having most of the 24/7 ratings in hand. See that?

This would be just ONE data sourse for your projection. Others would be pre-buy rate, fan avidity, Joe Hand's forecast, travel trends (Vegas), etc.

...just triangulate all those data sources

[Al Haymon]

LOL what difference does it make? LOL you're watching the fight along with everyone else on this forum, so why are you downplaying something you're physically going to partake in anyway? Come on Gordon, the Minstrel Show tours usually don't start until January. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the fight.

You'll forgive me for now knowing that reference. Care to expand?

...if it didn't make a difference, why would you comment?

[deanrw]

Obviously I'd luv everyone on earth to luv boxing. But Pac and Cotto do their talkin in the ring. Anybody who expected thrillin smack talk in this 24/7 was kiddin themselves. And a ton of people not carin bout this 24/7 ain't gonna kill boxing.

The **** is a cool concept, but it don't need to be done for every PPV fight. Save 24/7 for truly special fights; undisputed champs bein crowned, longtime rivals settlin a feud, 2 absolute best fighters in a division goin at it, etc.

And speakin only for myself, I've heard enuf about this fight, I just wanna see it already. **** ratings, **** PPV buys, and **** other men's $. I don't give a ****. I'll be watchin the fight at a homey's house. I hope it's good. If it sucks, shame on me for wastin my time, but I ain't payin for it. If it ends up bein a gr8 fight, lol at whoever missed it.

Folks! Now ^^^that^^^ is called keeping it ****ing real!! Green K this guy like I did.

[Al Haymon]

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Duck,

The "live viewers" is not meaningful because HBO rebroadcasts the show many times. And most viewers know this, and plan to catch the show at a later time, or just DVR's the show.

The important figure is the "total viewers", including VOD.

Think about it, how many shows do you watch 'live"? To give fair credit to Pac/cotto/hatton/may/,marq/ etc, you have to look at total viewership.

Quel doesn't have an idea of how TV works.

[Al Haymon]

The **** is a cool concept, but it don't need to be done for every PPV fight. Save 24/7 for truly special fights; undisputed champs bein crowned, longtime rivals settlin a feud, 2 absolute best fighters in a division goin at it, etc.
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I defnitely agree with that.

[WhoreUs]

Duck,

The "live viewers" is not meaningful because HBO rebroadcasts the show many times. And most viewers know this, and plan to catch the show at a later time, or just DVR's the show.

The important figure is the "total viewers", including VOD.

Think about it, how many shows do you watch 'live"? To give fair credit to Pac/cotto/hatton/may/,marq/ etc, you have to look at total viewership.

Quel doesn't have an idea of how TV works.

take him off ignore and then maybe he can defend his argument.

[Doctor_Tenma]

take him off ignore and then maybe he can defend his argument.

Come on Al, QUE is cool people. I only have 2 people on my ignore, *********** and Strungler (However you spell his name).

[MindBat]

I think most fight fans and viewers expect to see a little bantering between both fighters to hype the fight. It doesn't need to get to the levels of May-DLH 24/7 or May-Hatton 24/7, but they should at least thrown in some trash talking in there, however comical it can be. It'll only help to portray the confidence both fighters have in themselves.

It should at least be very entertaining, in my opinion.

Those 24/7 series are not produced at no cost. Someone has to pay for those.

[Ravishing]

You'll forgive me for now knowing that reference. Care to expand?

...if it didn't make a difference, why would you comment?

Completely went over your head Gordon.

Are you going to admit you're not watching this fight?