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  • #21
    Originally posted by BOX-A-LOT View Post
    Some of you say that his boxing ability would play a key factor in beating PAC. I disagree, Cotto's methodicalness and predictable attack will bite him in the @ss against PAC.

    Everyone is looking at Cotto's fight against Shane and the boxing ability he showed in the later rounds. That's the kind of "boxing ability" that PAC will pick apart!!

    Cotto's best chance to victory is to impose his size and power through perpetual motion, not box PAC.

    JMM/Erika's boxing ability are worlds apart from Cotto's. Cotto is much better at bullying, rather than boxing!

    That's being a bit harsh. Cotto is a pretty good boxer, counter puncher, good ring generalship, and has the size and power advantage over Pac. He's also not to bad at offsetting his oppenents speed with timing. However there are weakness in his game: His defense and his stamina and moving backwards against the ropes when he's in trouble are not good. These are all weakness that Pacquaio can exploit if Cotto has not made dramatic improvements on.


    For Cotto to win he needs to impose his size, power, and counter punch Pac when Pac trys to move in and out with a flurry. He needs to pressure Pacquiao cut the ring off and tie him up in the ropes where he can work on the body. Pacquiao doesn't fight that well when he's getting backed up. He tends to went to brawl when he does this and if he does that against Cotto, it will be a short night for him. If Cotto can do this Pacquiao has no chance.

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    • #22
      im not a cotto fan, but this guy makes a great point


      Originally posted by Dondi33O View Post
      torres, mosley, judah. malinaggi, clottey, quintana...all beaten by a guy whose boxing skill is "not all that".

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BOX-A-LOT View Post
        Some of you say that his boxing ability would play a key factor in beating PAC. I disagree, Cotto's methodicalness and predictable attack will bite him in the @ss against PAC.

        Everyone is looking at Cotto's fight against Shane and the boxing ability he showed in the later rounds. That's the kind of "boxing ability" that PAC will pick apart!!

        Cotto's best chance to victory is to impose his size and power through perpetual motion, not box PAC.

        JMM/Erika's boxing ability are worlds apart from Cotto's. Cotto is much better at bullying, rather than boxing!
        DISAGREE!

        No one is comparing pac to Carlos Quintana OR Shane, Or Zab OR Margarito (god no) Or Joshua Clotty... Do you see where I'm going here.

        What would you say the difference is between the two? somethings that we can ultimately bridge a huge defining factor that could weigh heavy heavy significance on defining the out come.

        Over the past 2 years look at the variety of opponets in styles and speed or heavy handedness Cotto has fought and when he fought them, they all share a commonality. They where at their peak of their ability.

        Now let's look at Then look at Pac. We have Barerra (past prime) JMM , DIAZ (sorry but a bum), DE LA HOYA (name sounds really big...but just that in the fight), Hatton ( 1 gear fighter).

        Based on the pure level of competition Cotto has been fighting the best at their best. You can't argue that. Even Freddy Roach Preaches that...

        To be the best, you _____________. PERIOD. When it comes fight night that apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.

        Pac ability or his level of competition? well...One is synonymous with the other. He is moving up in weight, so is his body and his chin so is the extra weight to cope with how heavy Cotto will be(naturally). Pac has to fight at a high level for 12 rounds. Cotto is no stranger to that. Pac is not in with someone who will sit on the ropes and not fire back or someone who isn't afraid to take a chance or someone who hasn't gotten off the canvas before to win.

        I wouldn't say his ability is worlds apart from jmm or Morales but if you going back that far to find a decent opponent at a lower weight class and out of their prime... that's a huge stretch for the imagination.
        Last edited by R.Winky Wright; 11-01-2009, 11:04 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by handwraps View Post
          compared to pac hes a much better boxer. all pac has done is learned how to use his right hand hes off balance throwing punches. if cotto somewhat times pacs speed. pac isnt gonna be able to outbox him
          ?????

          Pac has better footwork, better handspeed, better at avaiding punches, better at waiting for an opening to land the killer punches, Pac is a way better boxer

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          • #25
            Cotto boxed wonderfully against Mosley...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3 View Post
              cotto's boxing ability is underrated by alot of people. he boxed good against mosley, he was boxing circles around Marg till the plaster shot became too much. he has decent boxing ability but IMO he better a coming foward being the aggresser
              his stamina doesnt make him a good boxer, he gets tired when he decides to retreat. to me, he doesnt look natural when he does it, he can do it but he is not as affective as when he is pushing the fight.

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              • #27
                Nah Cotto is a great Boxer he's a bit careless on defense, because he's used to breaking his opponent down as the fight progresses. He needs to work on his foot work the faster he can move on his feet the better chance he has at winning.

                If Pac can't hurt Cotto early on and Cotto is able to catch back I see Cotto winning. There's just no way I can see Pac taking Cotto shots if Cotto feels Pac can't hurt him, but Pac is fast and small so he's a hard target. When Pacs ducks Cotto will be swinging at the air. Pac is the smallest guy Cotto has probably ever faced.

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                • #28
                  Dont know what the TS is talking about, Cotto is very good boxer. Cotto was able to offset Mosley's speed with great timing and accurate punching. Cotto got tired in the late rounds but hell he was fighting Mosely, thats not an easy task! Plus Cotto has already figured out how to beat guys with quick hands (Mosely, Juddah) who has Pac fought that was as strong as Cotto?

                  I think Cotto takes it, Pac is good but Cotto has been in the ring against most of the big names in the WW division. More importantly he beat them all at their regular fighting weight! The fight against Margarito should be a no contest,everyone knows he cheated.

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                  • #29
                    Cotto is a much better boxer than Packy.

                    Packy still fights off balance like an amateur.

                    Boxing won't mean **** in this fight, Cotto is too much for him and will crush him.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                      Cotto has good boxing ability not as good as Mayweather for example but much better than Pac.....ppl are confusing his great speed with great boxing ability. Cotto is clearly the better boxer of the two in terms of skill.
                      people are confusing boxing to pot-shot

                      Originally posted by incredible View Post
                      That's being a bit harsh. Cotto is a pretty good boxer, counter puncher, good ring generalship, and has the size and power advantage over Pac. He's also not to bad at offsetting his oppenents speed with timing. However there are weakness in his game: His defense and his stamina and moving backwards against the ropes when he's in trouble are not good. These are all weakness that Pacquaio can exploit if Cotto has not made dramatic improvements on.


                      For Cotto to win he needs to impose his size, power, and counter punch Pac when Pac trys to move in and out with a flurry. He needs to pressure Pacquiao cut the ring off and tie him up in the ropes where he can work on the body. Pacquiao doesn't fight that well when he's getting backed up. He tends to went to brawl when he does this and if he does that against Cotto, it will be a short night for him. If Cotto can do this Pacquiao has no chance.
                      agreed

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