Vargas gets KO from 147-160

[mic573]

I think the main reason Vargas didn't look so great tonight is because he fought too defensively. He is trying to learn too many things at one time. I think he should just win some fights to get his confidence back while working on new stuff in the gym and gradually applying it in the ring.

[Neuraxis]

Hopefully all of you people saying that Vargas is done were not saying how great Toney looked against Booker nor should you be proclaiming Tua the heavyweight king when he KOs Griffis.

[Truth]

I think the main reason Vargas didn't look so great tonight is because he fought too defensively. He is trying to learn too many things at one time. I think he should just win some fights to get his confidence back while working on new stuff in the gym and gradually applying it in the ring.

Yeah and he has time do that because he is only 27 years old and like I said maybe those big losses are good because he has been humbled.

[DLT]

Hopefully all of you people saying that Vargas is done were not saying how great Toney looked against Booker nor should you be proclaiming Tua the heavyweight king when he KOs Griffis.

It's not about that. Vargas got KO by Tito and hasnt looked good since. Then he got KO by Oscar and he looked like **** against Marshall(a guy who shouldnt even have a boxing license). He looks worse every fight

[mic573]

It's not about that. Vargas got KO by Tito and hasnt looked good since. Then he got KO by Oscar and he looked like **** against Marshall(a guy who shouldnt even have a boxing license). He looks worse every fight

I think part of him not looking good against Marshall was that he was fighting in a outdoor arena when it was very cold that night.

[MlLkMan]

Thats why hes trying to be "SMARTER" in the ring, dont get to heavy on Vargas, we still have to see when he fights the top guys.

[FuryDragon]

Fernando Vargas is a different fighter now. As it has been said time and time again in this thread, no body should expect an athlete who has been out of the ring for over a year to come in and look as sharp as he did prior.

It was pretty clear and obvious that he did not perform with the same intensity that we are used to seeing from him, but then again he fought totally different as a whole. Defensively, he put on a boxing clinic, and although Joval is no where near the level of Trinidad, Wright, DLH, etc., to make anyone in the top 15 middleweights land at less than 20% accuracy is impressive.

He performed well, but in a different way than he usually would, because his approach was totally different. He wasn't going for a knockout, and that much was evident after the first three rounds. Be patient and give him a few fights before you go jumping the gun and claiming the man is totally shot.

[Run]

Hopefully all of you people saying that Vargas is done were not saying how great Toney looked against Booker nor should you be proclaiming Tua the heavyweight king when he KOs Griffis.

LOL. I have heard some people say that Toney looked impressive against Booker. They also claimed that Toney won every single round of the Jirov fight......because of "counterpunching". Wtf ever.



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[DLT]

Fernando Vargas is a different fighter now. As it has been said time and time again in this thread, no body should expect an athlete who has been out of the ring for over a year to come in and look as sharp as he did prior.

It was pretty clear and obvious that he did not perform with the same intensity that we are used to seeing from him, but then again he fought totally different as a whole. Defensively, he put on a boxing clinic, and although Joval is no where near the level of Trinidad, Wright, DLH, etc., to make anyone in the top 15 middleweights land at less than 20% accuracy is impressive.

He performed well, but in a different way than he usually would, because his approach was totally different. He wasn't going for a knockout, and that much was evident after the first three rounds. Be patient and give him a few fights before you go jumping the gun and claiming the man is totally shot.

Man, I have been saying this. This isnt about tonight. You talk about his defense? Please. Joval has to be the most uncordinated fighter I have ever seen. I bet you anything if he steps up to a half way decent fighter, he will lose. I bet you that Eastman would knock him out

[FuryDragon]

Fernando Vargas said himself that he was looking to try something new. Perhaps the best decision wasn't to turn a pro-fight into a sparring session, but he didn't do half-bad.

I'll say this again -- Give him a few fights before you jump the gun and claim the man is shot. You can't even say that this bout is a reflection of the negative results incurred during his bout against Trinidad, because he has taken an entire year off. He's a different fighter, wait and see. That's not to say that he is going to be a legendary competitor, it just means to wait before you go throwing assumptions out and making an ass out of yourself.