Can Anyone Provide Proof Where Steroids Helped a Fighter Win a Fight?

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  • Kendo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ravishing
    There's been a lot of steroid talk as of late (particularly aimed at Shane Mosley) and how fighters should be banned if they used it.

    My question to those people, is there any proof that can be provided where a fighter had a edge in a fight by using steroids and was able to hurt the opponent much worse?

    Please provide...
    It all depends on the type you take. Not all roids just make you grow huge muscles and make you just beat down everything in sight. Some help with reflexes some help with muscle building. If you read up on BALCO you see that they had a variaty of things. But does it help you win fights? I dont know. **** Mosley was steller in the first DLH fight. The second fight when he was on it. I still think he lost that fight. He had spurts but he was nowhere near the first fight.

    Vargas took it and got the **** beat out of him as the fight went on. So he could have used a type that just makes you bigger and stronger. But for real I dont know if it gives you an edge. I mean Toney beats Ruiz steroids or not. But you look at Toney who has been testing positive. He said it was for his back but they wouldnt allow him to take it or let him fight if its an illeagal riod would they? But he looks like ****. Yes you need to put in just as more if not more work in the gym when your on it. You just dont take it and all your fat turns to muscle and you have no body fat. You need to still go at it. Honestly though I dont know if it helps you in a fight. I mean you look at the guys who have taken it in the sport and they all have losses. If your a pure boxer you can beat someone who is on it.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ravishing
      There's been a lot of steroid talk as of late (particularly aimed at Shane Mosley) and how fighters should be banned if they used it.

      My question to those people, is there any proof that can be provided where a fighter had a edge in a fight by using steroids and was able to hurt the opponent much worse?

      Please provide...
      It's in training that it helps, more so than the actual fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by eVenture
        People who use them get a boost of energy, power and strength. They also manage to stay injured free. It all depends what you might be taking. but it helps their training a lot.
        while others might have trouble getting lean into shape steroids makes it easier for those that use them. Being in shape takes self sacrifice , but steroids is a shortcut for it. But it will cause harm for those that used it in the long run. Anything not natural may cause harm to your body. Especially when used excessively.
        Good point but creatin does the samething and its not banned. I take NO Explode and cellmass. NO Explode helps you get that extra pump and rep and more fluint reps. Cellmass heals your muscles quicker and also helps you build faster. Muscle Milk does the samething. Myoplex again the samething. It helps you recover and stay active.

        Now all the thing I just named riods do the samething. So if someone takes any of those or just creatine itself is that cheating? Its doing some of the samethings roids do. None of that is gonna work unless you go to the gym and work hard. I took both NO Explode and Cellmass and got very good results. My lifting weight went up within a week and I was maxing out by the end of the first month. Does that mean Im cheating when I step in the ring or in my case get onto the baseball field?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          keep it just case....also, dont forget weight drained
          I admire Cotto, but I won't be one of the excuse makers. I am not going to jump the 'he could have won if' bandwagons. Certain things will not help him win like the catch-weight and I think the title being on the line is complete garbage, but if Cotto loses, so be it. I am solidly behind Cotto, and if he does lose I will continue to be a follower and admire him and his presence in the ring.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ravishing
            There's been a lot of steroid talk as of late (particularly aimed at Shane Mosley) and how fighters should be banned if they used it.

            My question to those people, is there any proof that can be provided where a fighter had a edge in a fight by using steroids and was able to hurt the opponent much worse?

            Please provide...
            I've spent the last 5 minutes laughing at your sig.

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              #26
              Oh my goodness the differences are enormous, and if one is on roids and the other is not THAT IS CHEATING.

              Originally posted by Kendo
              Good point but creatin does the samething and its not banned. I take NO Explode and cellmass. NO Explode helps you get that extra pump and rep and more fluint reps. Cellmass heals your muscles quicker and also helps you build faster. Muscle Milk does the samething. Myoplex again the samething. It helps you recover and stay active.

              Now all the thing I just named riods do the samething. So if someone takes any of those or just creatine itself is that cheating? Its doing some of the samethings roids do. None of that is gonna work unless you go to the gym and work hard. I took both NO Explode and Cellmass and got very good results. My lifting weight went up within a week and I was maxing out by the end of the first month. Does that mean Im cheating when I step in the ring or in my case get onto the baseball field?

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #27
                Nobody was really able to answer the question.

                Interesting.

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                • MaD RoBoT
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
                  Nobody was really able to answer the question.

                  Interesting.
                  LOL

                  back then, there were no steroid or PED experts we had nowadays

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                    #29
                    pacquiao is taking some top notch steroids... mofokers has that **** on the down low since he was at 106

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                    • Vasyl’s dad
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                      LOL

                      back then, there were no steroid or PED experts we had nowadays
                      Well, I've heard enrollment at U of G, University of Google, has had a major upswing lately, in the advanced, double time course, of course.

                      Grads are popping out at a rate of 200 a day.

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