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  • #11
    Originally posted by Carnivore View Post
    He's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!

    The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.

    His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?

    This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.
    first of all the biased poll is just childish, even if i agreed with you on Hopkins i would still think its very childish.. kind of pathetic for a grown man to act like that.

    tito wasnt a smaller guy, he was a huge WW. best weight was 154. are u saying just because he was one weightclass above his best you should dismiss hopkins' win completely? not to mention size clearly didnt matter since hopkins just outclassed him. and the fact that he outboxed him using his speed, something that would be the smaler mans andvantage.. not giving hopkins props for his win is like not giving hagler props for hearns.

    also hopkins unified the division, he took all the belts, beat all the contenders.. he didnt cherry pick anything. nobody wanted to fight him for years, once he got his shot thru the tournament to become a mainstream star he took it, and took on all comers as undisputed champion.

    saying he doesnt have character is laughable. he turned his life around in prison, one of the hardest workers in the history of the sport. not the most talented guy out there, but became one of the all time greatest MWs thru toughness and hard work. today he gives back to his community aswell.

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    • #12
      What exactly is the point of this thread?

      Did you make it in retaliation to the Kessler thread?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Carnivore View Post
        He's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!

        The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.

        His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?

        This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.
        no suprise coming from tunney - the guy who ****rides any european fighter and puts him as his avatar anytime he wins a big fight.

        LOL

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        • #14
          Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
          saying he doesnt have character is laughable. he turned his life around in prison, one of the hardest workers in the history of the sport. not the most talented guy out there, but became one of the all time greatest MWs thru toughness and hard work. today he gives back to his community aswell.
          He should get credit for turning his life around that is true, but at the same time the fact that he uses cheating tactics does raise questions about his character. In my opinion he disgraced himself in both the Winky and Calzaghe fights.

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          • #15
            No need for this Tunney. If you want to really address the question, at least give us some realistic poll options.

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            • #16
              BHop is incredibly overrated.

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              • #17
                Sounds like a Calzaghe fan boy, Im white and took no offence of his white boy comments, grow a pair mate.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Shadows View Post
                  What exactly is the point of this thread?

                  Did you make it in retaliation to the Kessler thread?
                  Just giving the Kessler hater with B-Hop in his avatar who made that thread a taste of his own medicine.

                  Bhopreign is another one who hates Kessler and all European boxers. Why are Hopkins fans so racist? Roy Jones fans are generally not.

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                  • #19
                    no offense tunney, but its SO ****in obvious you got racism in you. like i said, you hop on the **** of any european that makes it. your a bandwagon jumper. whenevr a white guy and a black guy fight it wouldnt hard to figure out who you and kilitschko2009 root for.

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                    • #20
                      how is b-hop overrated when he lost a SD against calzaghe at age of 43?
                      that means calzaghe is also overrated.
                      look how he beat pavlik, one of his best fights and he is soooooo old

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