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James Toney: "What The F*** You Know? I'm P4P. Mayweather's Only A Top WW" (Audio)

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  • #41
    Originally posted by DLT View Post
    Honestly, I just listened to it and I love Toney. The best talker ever, by far. I dont think he was jealous now after listening to him. Floyd & him have always given eachother props because they were from the same area but I still dont agree with some things he said. He talked about how the only reason why he might not fight guys is the money. Then the guy said thats what Floyd always says and Toney responded by saying that Floyd is making millions fighting chumps. All of you laughed liked that was a good comeback but its not.

    Just because Toney would fight for a certain price doesnt mean that Floyd should. I mean, Im the realist cat out here. Im the only regular person who takes up for atheletes over fans. I think alot of fans cry alot. They get mad and jelous over atheletes because they are making a ton of money. My brother is the same way. He talks non stop about what pros are making and saying how they should stop being spoiled and asking for money when the common man makes pennies. Meanwhile he's always crying at his job for more money. I tell him that its the same thing the pros are doing, they just want there fair market value and you cant knock them just because its more then what you make.

    He then responds just like Toney. He said that if he was making millions then he wouldnt cry about this or try to get a little more then that. Since then he started his own business and is making way more then almost anyone I know and guess what? He complains more about money now than he did before. That was my point to him from the get go. Stop acting like because these guys make more money than you that they should just settle for whatever. Toney can say that because he's making scraps but if he was making what Floyd is making then he would still be trying to get more money. You want what your worth. Its all the same. Thats what people dont get. If you make 5,000 then you might cry about why your not getting 10,000 but thats the same as the guy making 5mil crying about why he's not getting the 10mil that he deserves. Its all relative
    I agree with that... the more money you make, the more you spend, and the more you need.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      And at 140lbs Floyd fought Corley, Brussles and Gatti... meanwhile Pacs first and ONLY fight at 140lbs he fought Hatton... who was undefeated in the division and the linear champion. So what's your point?

      And since when did Floyd only fight twice at 135lbs?
      hatton dd everything he could not to fight floyd at 140---hatton was scared to fight floyd at 149 and so was cotto---hatton even said he wasn't ready for floyd at 140---140 was floyd at his most dangerous since 130---and at 140---floyd was at his most dominant---nobody wanted to fight floyd at 140---no body---james can claim this and that---but floyd is so much greater than toney was---he has always had more skill---it's not floyd's fault he was ducked for so many years---i mean, if you look st sll of the great fighters of the 90s and 2000s, floyd was at the very top pp wise---floyd i just that damn good---there'd nothing wrong wth that---judah, mosly, ocar, harris_got knocked out by a bum in maussa, cotto, and hatton, wanted no parts of floyd---floyd just may be the greatest skilled fighter boxing has ever seen overall in history---he is too crafty to lose---just watch floyd against gatti---floyd looked scary at that weight---james is on something that he needs to overcome---i guarantee you all, floyd will beat paul williams, cotto, pac, mosley, berto, cintron, margarito, or whoever else he fought---and you all know it....floyd is the truth in that ring---period...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        Stop writing paragraphs of bull****.

        Zab Judah isn't a "bum" either... maybe you should go look up the definition of a bum.

        John Ricketower was a bum.... who is that you say? Exactly... because he was a bum.

        Baldomir wasn't a "great" fighter, he may not make the "hall of fame" but that certainly doesn't make you automatically a bum. All fighters that don't become ring legends, hall of famers, or all time great champions aren't bums. Going undefeated pro for 10 years isn't bad.. winning a world title isn't too bad. It's a lot further then a lot of people have gone in their lives.. and I resent anyone on a hardcore boxing forum calling a professional former title holder a "bum".

        It's ignorant, disrespectful, and childish. A lot of people are BUMS in their lives... I'd say given Baldomir's background and where he comes from, he is a damn success.
        I never called Zab Judah a bum. I said he was an overrated frontrunner. There is a difference.

        He went 10yrs undefeated. Cuz he got some homecooking agaisnt Joshua Clottey and got a gift of a draw agaisnt Jose Luis Cruz... He is a Zab Judah creation. That all he was...

        Bro he was not that good. I even said maybe the reason I call him a bum is that I seen dude gym. I saw him get whoop by a lot of fighters. Lazcano really hurt him In the gym. Lazcano was a career LW... I am sorry if you offended and I usually don't call professional fighters bums. I think there are different level of fighters. However, Baldomir was a bum. Again the only reason we heard of him was cuz of a crooked WBC, the robbery of Clottey and Cruz, and him beating an overrated frontrunner. No I am not saying Zab is a bum. But, he is an overrated frontrunner... No bull****...

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        • #44
          at ******s takin this **** seriously enuf to gte pissed about it.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            I never called Zab Judah a bum. I said he was an overrated frontrunner. There is a difference.

            He went 10yrs undefeated. Cuz he got some homecooking agaisnt Joshua Clottey and got a gift of a draw agaisnt Jose Luis Cruz... He is a Zab Judah creation. That all he was...

            Bro he was not that good. I even said maybe the reason I call him a bum is that I seen dude gym. I saw him get whoop by a lot of fighters. Lazcano really hurt him In the gym. Lazcano was a career LW... I am sorry if you offended and I usually don't call professional fighters bums. I think there are different level of fighters. However, Baldomir was a bum. Again the only reason we heard of him was cuz of a crooked WBC, the robbery of Clottey and Cruz, and him beating an overrated frontrunner. No I am not saying Zab is a bum. But, he is an overrated frontrunner... No bull****...
            He isn't a "bum" but thanks for your opinion..... bro.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by BoxCleva View Post
              James Toney gets offended by a journalist not mentioning him on his P4P list and what starts off as a verbal beat down develops in to an interesting discussion on Toney's career, the P4P ranking system, Floyd Mayweather Jnr, Shane Mosley and Toney's fight prediction if he ever faced the Klitschkos. Hit Play for a 10 minute audio clip..

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              wait no way in hell James Toney will be ranked higher than Mayweather...this guy got punked by Toney and tucked his tail quickly...lol...
              Last edited by Jiddu Dali; 10-27-2009, 01:29 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BoxCleva View Post
                James Toney gets offended by a journalist not mentioning him on his P4P list and what starts off as a verbal beat down develops in to an interesting discussion on Toney's career, the P4P ranking system, Floyd Mayweather Jnr, Shane Mosley and Toney's fight prediction if he ever faced the Klitschkos. Hit Play for a 10 minute audio clip..

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                Was that Pootie Tang? I didnt understand much of what he said.

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                • #48
                  I love James Toney. Once his career is over I hope he considers becoming a trainer so he can pass on all the stuff that Bill Miller taught him.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                    wait no way in hell James Toney will be ranked higher than Mayweather...this guy got punked by Toney and tucked his tail quickly...lol...
                    lol.. he did revise his statement a little quick.. I think right now, Toney fought the better quality opposition overall but Mayweather still has a time to get the best boxers in the WW division on his record. If he fights Mosley, Cotto, Clottey and Pacquiao then Mayweather probably gets ranked higher than Toney..

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                    • #50
                      The host started sucking up to Toney a bit after Toney blasted him.

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