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James Toney: "What The F*** You Know? I'm P4P. Mayweather's Only A Top WW" (Audio)

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  • #31
    Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
    Hatton was better than Baldomir? Did you actually just say that? Floyd beat Baldomir by unanimous decision. Baldomir was never hurt. He knocked Hatton the **** out? How can a fighter who got KTFO be better than another guy who lost by decision to the same fighter?
    So I guess Keith Holmes is better than Trinidad? Holmes lasted the distance with Hopkins while Tito got stopped in the very next fight... Such a moroic statement...

    Baldomir was a bum. a ****ing bum... Yes Hatton was better... And, if you also read what I wrote. I said P4P Hatton was better. And, if you really think for a second that BUMdomir was better than Hatton. Then you really don't know what you are talking about...

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    • #32
      James makes a good point. He was 49-0, but people still didn't have him as P4P#1. What makes Floyd so special that he has only 40 wins, yet he's considered P4P #1 material solely on his undefeated record?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        So I guess Keith Holmes is better than Trinidad? Holmes lasted the distance with Hopkins while Tito got stopped in the very next fight... Such a moroic statement...

        Baldomir was a bum. a ****ing bum... Yes Hatton was better... And, if you also read what I wrote. I said P4P Hatton was better. And, if you really think for a second that BUMdomir was better than Hatton. Then you really don't know what you are talking about...
        Baldomir is not a BUM... quit with the sarcasm.

        He isn't a great fighter... but bums you dont hear about... Give the man his respect.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
          James makes a good point. He was 49-0, but people still didn't have him as P4P#1. What makes Floyd so special that he has only 40 wins, yet he's considered P4P #1 material solely on his undefeated record?
          He was 44-0.. and got whooped by Roy.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
            Hatton was better than Baldomir? Did you actually just say that? Floyd beat Baldomir by unanimous decision. Baldomir was never hurt. He knocked Hatton the **** out? How can a fighter who got KTFO be better than another guy who lost by decision to the same fighter?
            awful argument. good lord people.....

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            • #36
              Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
              Hatton was better than Baldomir? Did you actually just say that? Floyd beat Baldomir by unanimous decision. Baldomir was never hurt. He knocked Hatton the **** out? How can a fighter who got KTFO be better than another guy who lost by decision to the same fighter?
              Shocking logic

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                Shocking logic
                WAR HAye!!!!!!!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  Baldomir is not a BUM... quit with the sarcasm.

                  He isn't a great fighter... but bums you dont hear about... Give the man his respect.
                  He was a bum bro. He was Zab Judah creation. He was not that good. His only skill was his chin and ability to take punishment. He was slow, he had no technique, had no power to speak off, he was not good. He was getting his ass whooped by Clottey until he got help by a house ref... Maybe I call him a bum cuz I saw him years ago. In the L.A gyms getting his ass whooped by Lazcano. He should of had another loss against Jose Luis Cruz. He just was not that good. He was a bum. The only reason we heard of him is cuz he beat an overrated frontrunner.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    He was a bum bro. He was Zab Judah creation. He was not that good. His only skill was his chin and ability to take punishment. He was slow, he had no technique, had no power to speak off, he was not good. He was getting his ass whooped by Clottey until he got help by a house ref... Maybe I call him a bum cuz I saw him years ago. In the L.A gyms getting his ass whooped by Lazcano. He should of had another loss against Jose Luis Cruz. He just was not that good. He was a bum. The only reason we heard of him is cuz he beat an overrated frontrunner.
                    Stop writing paragraphs of bull****.

                    Zab Judah isn't a "bum" either... maybe you should go look up the definition of a bum.

                    John Ricketower was a bum.... who is that you say? Exactly... because he was a bum.

                    Baldomir wasn't a "great" fighter, he may not make the "hall of fame" but that certainly doesn't make you automatically a bum. All fighters that don't become ring legends, hall of famers, or all time great champions aren't bums. Going undefeated pro for 10 years isn't bad.. winning a world title isn't too bad. It's a lot further then a lot of people have gone in their lives.. and I resent anyone on a hardcore boxing forum calling a professional former title holder a "bum".

                    It's ignorant, disrespectful, and childish. A lot of people are BUMS in their lives... I'd say given Baldomir's background and where he comes from, he is a damn success.

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                    • #40
                      Honestly, I just listened to it and I love Toney. The best talker ever, by far. I dont think he was jealous now after listening to him. Floyd & him have always given eachother props because they were from the same area but I still dont agree with some things he said. He talked about how the only reason why he might not fight guys is the money. Then the guy said thats what Floyd always says and Toney responded by saying that Floyd is making millions fighting chumps. All of you laughed liked that was a good comeback but its not.

                      Just because Toney would fight for a certain price doesnt mean that Floyd should. I mean, Im the realist cat out here. Im the only regular person who takes up for atheletes over fans. I think alot of fans cry alot. They get mad and jelous over atheletes because they are making a ton of money. My brother is the same way. He talks non stop about what pros are making and saying how they should stop being spoiled and asking for money when the common man makes pennies. Meanwhile he's always crying at his job for more money. I tell him that its the same thing the pros are doing, they just want there fair market value and you cant knock them just because its more then what you make.

                      He then responds just like Toney. He said that if he was making millions then he wouldnt cry about this or try to get a little more then that. Since then he started his own business and is making way more then almost anyone I know and guess what? He complains more about money now than he did before. That was my point to him from the get go. Stop acting like because these guys make more money than you that they should just settle for whatever. Toney can say that because he's making scraps but if he was making what Floyd is making then he would still be trying to get more money. You want what your worth. Its all the same. Thats what people dont get. If you make 5,000 then you might cry about why your not getting 10,000 but thats the same as the guy making 5mil crying about why he's not getting the 10mil that he deserves. Its all relative

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