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  • hammerhiem
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    #71
    Originally posted by AssasinKing
    People in england especially dont like him, cos he is asian, they will always deny it but its true....Apparently according to a few boys from my college class "the only reason they say he is good is because he is asian" .... Yh rite, if he was black or white he would be the next Ali with them...
    No one ever claim Fraudly Harrision or James Degale was/is the next Ali.

    Actually Degale is getting pretty annoying too, he needs to listen to Billy Joe Saunders post fight interviews.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #72
      Originally posted by AssasinKing
      Pretty much agree with this...i like khan, hes a good guy, he is confident not arrogant....He is humble aswel...

      People in england especially dont like him, cos he is asian, they will always deny it but its true....Apparently according to a few boys from my college class "the only reason they say he is good is because he is asian" .... Yh rite, if he was black or white he would be the next Ali with them...

      I dont see why he gets so much hate, and i dont think the newspaper help him either...people get sick of seeing the same person in the paper, and they do hype him up more then they should but thats not his fault...

      And in todays world people expect a boxer the age of 22 yrs old to have all the best fighters in the world on their resume ...
      Well I don't know what it is like in England with race relations but don't they have any "asian" athletes or entertainers they like where they can relate?

      What about Naz; how was the feeling with him?
      Naz was a big favorite of mine although his confidence did stretch into inflated ego (although it was humerous and part of it did seem like showmanship to promote a fight).

      The thing is, Amir is not even like Tyson at 22 (years of age) where Tyson looked like a Man. And even Tyson, admitted that mentally he was not mature enough to handle being HW Champion; and even physically, he wasn't as strong as he was years later.
      Khan looks like he will be one of those fighters that will have that "Man-stage" at 25 which is why I suggested a while back that they not push him so fast.

      Too much exposure can be a bad thing, agree. It builds very high expectations and you feel the need to keep justifying it every second which may push you faster than you need to go. The move to L.A. may help him stay relaxed and have people like Roach help him plan out his career accordingly...although hopefully Roach doesn't get greedy with the loss of Pac (retiring) and need that next superstar to fight the big fights all the time. Luckily he does have Guillermo Rigondeaux to keep him busy.


      It's up to Amir now to keep training, stay on track, and make the doubters converts with big wins. The article I read said it took Lennox Lewis some time to win over the British public. Amir may have to do the same thing with making the "hype" become actual truth.

      I wonder if Amir can make a big impact in the United States. He does have youth on his side and staying in L.A. around the "Stars" can actually help boost your name in the public. Now, like I said before, he just has to keep winning and excite the crowd.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-25-2009, 06:45 PM.

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      • AssasinKing
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        #73
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        Well I don't know what it is like in England with race relations but don't they have any "asian" athletes or entertainers they like where they can relate?

        What about Naz; how was the feeling with him?
        Naz was a big favorite of mine although his confidence did stretch into inflated ego (although it was humerous and part of it did seem like showmanship to promote a fight).

        The thing is, Amir is not even like Tyson at 22 (years of age) where Tyson looked like a Man. And even Tyson, admitted that mentally he was not mature enough to handle being HW Champion; and even physically, he wasn't as strong as he was years later.
        Khan looks like he will be one of those fighters that will have that "Man-stage" at 25 which is why I suggested a while back that they not push him so fast.

        Too much exposure can be a bad thing, agree. It builds very high expectations and you feel the need to keep justifying it every second which may push you faster than you need to go. The move to L.A. may help him stay relaxed and have people like Roach help him plan out his career accordingly...although hopefully Roach doesn't get greedy with the loss of Pac (retiring) and need that next superstar to fight the big fights all the time. Luckily he does have Guillermo Rigondeaux to keep him busy.


        It's up to Amir now to keep training, stay on track, and make the doubters converts with big wins. The article I read said it took Lennox Lewis some time to win over the British public. Amir may have to do the same thing with making the "hype" become actual truth.

        I wonder if Amir can make a big impact in the United States. He does have youth on his side and staying in L.A. around the "Stars" can actually help boost your name in the public. Now, like I said before, he just has to keep winning and excite the crowd.
        The difference is with naz, he was before 9/11 .... its AFTER 9/11 that all this racism and everything really kicked in...Thats why khan is now getting it all...

        And no we dont really have any asian athletes...football is the biggest sport here and i cant think of 1 indian/pakistani player in the premiership...Nolberto Solano is probably the closest you will get to indian/pakistani and hes from peru lol

        Apart from cricket, not really many asians in sports here

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          #74
          I dont dislike the guy he's a good fighter.

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          • hammerhiem
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            #75
            Originally posted by AssasinKing
            The difference is with naz, he was before 9/11 .... its AFTER 9/11 that all this racism and everything really kicked in...Thats why khan is now getting it all...

            And no we dont really have any asian athletes...football is the biggest sport here and i cant think of 1 indian/pakistani player in the premiership...Nolberto Solano is probably the closest you will get to indian/pakistani and hes from peru lol

            Apart from cricket, not really many asians in sports here
            Yeah Cricket is the only sport the asian communities have really broken through, I don't think anyone would argue that monty panesar is anything othr than a well loved cricketing icon.

            But as you say alot of the racism stems from 9/11 and monty is indian decent not pakistani.

            There are Asian footballers but not from pakistan/india, Je Sun Park at man utd for example.

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              #76
              Off topic a bit but i dont get why some people over here hate people of pakistani origin and not people of indian origin??? Because i seem to know how they call everyone the P word even if they're not from there..

              So why the hostility toward pakistani national and not indians so much???

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              • Floyd Joy
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                #77
                Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
                Off topic a bit but i dont get why some people over here hate people of pakistani origin and not people of indian origin??? Because i seem to know how they call everyone the P word even if they're not from there..

                So why the hostility toward pakistani national and not indians so much???
                who knows maybe it has to do with the war.

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                • The Noose
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  Well I don't know what it is like in England with race relations but don't they have any "asian" athletes or entertainers they like where they can relate?

                  What about Naz; how was the feeling with him?
                  Naz was a big favorite of mine although his confidence did stretch into inflated ego (although it was humerous and part of it did seem like showmanship to promote a fight).
                  Hamed was popular because he was a huge success. He won in style, he made boxing very entertaining, so people really liked him. He was also funny.

                  I was a big fan when i was a teenager, but im sure many older people hated his arrogance and dancing around.



                  There arent many asian celebrities in the UK. Most ethnics are black or mixed race.
                  There is also terrible problems between white and asian communities in the north of England.

                  Khan seems to take the brunt of the hostility.

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                  • S.G.
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
                    Yeah am still waiting for his explanation of how Khan got handed everything on a silver plate, Like Khan said nobody sees him waking up to go jugging at 5am or having to give up his life just to be dedicated to the sport.

                    all they see is the money,nice house,nice car etc they dont realise that nobody gives you anything without you working hard to get it, So maybe S.G can enlighten us but am not holding my breath though.
                    we've had this exact discussion before and it ended up in you throwing around flimsy accusations of racism with no genuine rebuttal

                    khan has had much more leg room career-wise than any other prospect or even any other olympian in britain and it's not because of some once in a lifetime prodigious talent because, as you yourself have conceded many times before, he's not even one of the best prospects in pro boxing right now. right place, right face, right time.

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                    • The Noose
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
                      Off topic a bit but i dont get why some people over here hate people of pakistani origin and not people of indian origin??? Because i seem to know how they call everyone the P word even if they're not from there..

                      So why the hostility toward pakistani national and not indians so much???
                      The origin of the P word.
                      Never thought about it.

                      Maybe it was used on purpose to piss of the Indians. Kinda like calling all Japanese or Korean people 'chinks'.

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