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  • #41
    Originally posted by grgsbrwr View Post
    Although winky is all but dead.... cotto is a bigger name now.... compare their resumes.... winkys is a hell of a lot better than cottons
    Winky at his best and Cotto at his best yes I agree Winky is a better fighter. But, even Winky at his best and Cotto at his best Winky will not be the bigger name fighter. Cotto could fight in New york and bring thousands to the arena. While Winky never was a draw even in his prime. He could not sell.
    Last edited by jrosales13; 10-24-2009, 05:50 PM.

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    • #42
      PWILL is an horrible match up for Pavlik I mean.

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      • #43
        I either want to see Paul Williams fight one of these three guys. Mayweather, Mosley, or Dzinziruk. Notice of how I left out Martinez. That dude is overrated as hell. He should've been able to get Cintron out of there after knocking him down like that. Margarito didn't ***** foot against Kermit like Sergio did. And Margarito beat Sergio's ass fair and square. He also doesn't have as much power as the other guys I mentioned except for maybe Floyd.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
          I can only speak for myself:

          I don't like Loew. I don't like Kelly's skinhead/neo-****/Affliction/steroided cornermen.

          I don't like that Kelly hasn't owned up to his problems and that they have continually denied the real issues. I don't like that he won the belt, and defended against the worst possible opposition.

          I don't like that they burned almost a year of P-Dub's career with their selfish lies.

          Yeah,so you don't like Pav's conermen and management.

          How do you know they are neo **** and steroided?

          Loew is a bad trainer and a moron.

          But Kelly?Kelly is an humble guy with hearth,he won the belt with his fists,not a pseudo gift D like TAylor get.
          He wasn't hyped like Taylor was,Kelly is a self made man with heart and will.

          Kelly is fightin who they pick(Arum and Loew).

          You're right,Kelly hasn't owned to his problems but I will not throw him into the bus for that one.

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          • #45
            Blind sided, It happens all the time. Kelly should let the title go, and if he can, if his hand allows it, take a tune up fight and then, get it back. Haters abound, but who have they fought? People talk about 110%, but there's only100. If you don't bring that, you only get hurt.

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            • #46
              under the bus.LOL.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                I don't like Kelly's skinhead/neo-****/Affliction/steroided cornermen.
                Do you have any proof of any of these accusations? It sounds to me that you just don't like white folks.

                Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                I don't like that Kelly hasn't owned up to his problems and that they have continually denied the real issues. I don't like that he won the belt, and defended against the worst possible opposition.
                Aren't you a Mayweather fan?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                  I either want to see Paul Williams fight one of these three guys. Mayweather, Mosley, or Dzinziruk. Notice of how I left out Martinez. That dude is overrated as hell. He should've been able to get Cintron out of there after knocking him down like that. Margarito didn't ***** foot against Kermit like Sergio did. And Margarito beat Sergio's ass fair and square. He also doesn't have as much power as the other guys I mentioned except for maybe Floyd.
                  Why do you say that? Did Cintron get time to recover after the Margarito knockout? How long did Cintron have time to recover from Martinez knockout? Noticed I said knockout cuz Martinez knocked him out. Martinez was robbed twice in the same fight bro. And, Cintron after that Martinez punch said that he has never been hit that hard before. But, anyways how much time did Cintron have to recover from that punch?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                    Fair points!
                    But his hand was obviously infected and still suffer of that.

                    I don't think Pavlik murdered himself his hand in order to duck PWill or paid an Hollywood's artist.

                    If he can't close his hand,he can't!
                    You don't fight Williams out of your top peak.
                    They are right to pull out.

                    This fight as to happen later,Williams should fight Martinez or Dzinzi for the belts.
                    But we all know they knew it was the right moment to take an unconfident and unactive Pavlik to make a big statement.
                    It was great pick!

                    That's why Peterson is so upset,not because Paul don't fight on december for a belt,he will!But because Pavlik was an easy pick at this point.

                    PWill is an horrible match up for Williams,if he doesn't have this fire power anymore,forget about a Pavlik win.
                    Williams outpoints Pavlik all day.
                    I don't think pavlik is ducking pwill at all!!! he hand picked paul.... paul didn't pick pavlik.... kelly picked him!!!

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      Winky at his best and Cotto at his best yes I agree Winky is a better fighter. But, even Winky at his best and Cotto at his best Winky will not be the bigger name fighter. Cotto could fight in New york and bring thousands to the arena. While Winky never was a draw even in his prime. He could not sell.
                      ok i concede... u win... lol winky really never was a draw... he was only a draw because of who he was facing...

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