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  • hardleft
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    #11
    Originally posted by JOITATS
    I don’t believe Usyk got old and unskillful overnight

    What happened was that we realized he wasnt as great as some ppl imagined him to be. The fact is this heavyweight division is or has been one of the weakest. Ngannou began to expose Fury, now this.

    Usyk maybe the best HW of this weaker era, But what people now realize is that he is far from the best of all time.
    usyk was heavy for him in that ring and he was fighting a 260 pound guy but he still almost gave up 30 pounds

    just saying

    plus that guy has been top combat atg guy as well

    its not so easy as it looks

    usyk being so heavy suggests he did not train as much as he has done for other fights

    just saying

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #12
      2 more fights and retire

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        #13
        Originally posted by JOITATS
        I don’t believe Usyk got old and unskillful overnight

        What happened was that we realized he wasnt as great as some ppl imagined him to be. The fact is this heavyweight division is or has been one of the weakest. Ngannou began to expose Fury, now this.

        Usyk maybe the best HW of this weaker era, But what people now realize is that he is far from the best of all time.
        No what happened was that he was flat footed and couldn’t pull the trigger on his punches at opportune times, not only did he get old over night, he was out of shape at his career heaviest.

        i don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that an overweight 39 year old heavyweight is not as good as he used to be.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JimRaynor

          No what happened was that he was flat footed and couldn’t pull the trigger on his punches at opportune times, not only did he get old over night, he was out of shape at his career heaviest.

          i don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that an overweight 39 year old heavyweight is not as good as he used to be.
          probably not after today

          he took many clean shots to the head and punishment to the body from a GIANT

          major wear and tear on his near 40 body

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          • hardleft
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            #15
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            probably not after today

            he took many clean shots to the head and punishment to the body from a GIANT

            major wear and tear on his near 40 body
            usyk stopped a 260 pound combat guy who was awkward

            he will be disappointed with his performance and rightly so but he got the job done in the end

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              #16
              Originally posted by JimRaynor

              Despite the terrible stoppage Usyk in all likelihood was on his way to a 12th round stoppage anyway, Rico was spent, so I wouldn’t call this Usyk being saved, but certainly helped out.


              Usyk can try to redeem himself with a rematch, but not sure what he last left in the tank at this age, seems like at this point he can’t even get his weight under control despite supposedly training.
              "In all likelihood", Usyk was losing the fight, but as we saw, the judges took care of that too. The referee stopped the fight after the bell and let Usyk land several punches after that. He could have called a second knockdown, but no...

              The thing with the age isn't solid - Rico isn't a lot younger.

              How is that when Dubois landed the alleged low blow, Usyk apologists are saying that even if it was ruled a knockdown, he would have stood up (although he was crawling like a beaten woman), but Rico was finished in this fight, while he was about to have 1 minute between the rounds and rest?

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              • Toffee
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                #17
                He won't fight Rico next, he'll fight Kabayel. Agit isn't going to step aside.

                Rico may get another fight but he'll never get a better chance of beating Usyk.

                He should be negotiating another big fight, as Ngannou did, and cash out on what he did against Usyk, as Ngannou did.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by fifth_root

                  "In all likelihood", Usyk was losing the fight, but as we saw, the judges took care of that too. The referee stopped the fight after the bell and let Usyk land several punches after that. He could have called a second knockdown, but no...

                  The thing with the age isn't solid - Rico isn't a lot younger.

                  How is that when Dubois landed the alleged low blow, Usyk apologists are saying that even if it was ruled a knockdown, he would have stood up (although he was crawling like a beaten woman), but Rico was finished in this fight, while he was about to have 1 minute between the rounds and rest?
                  Rico was finished before the uppercut landed. He was done and then Usyk took advantage.

                  I thought he deserved to see the start of the 12th, or to at least let his corner decide if he could come back out.

                  I'm not quite so convinced the scorecards weren't right. I didn't score round by round so I'll need to watch again, but the DAZN scoring definitely had a "he did surprisingly well so he gets the round" slant.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JOITATS
                    I don’t believe Usyk got old and unskillful overnight

                    What happened was that we realized he wasnt as great as some ppl imagined him to be. The fact is this heavyweight division is or has been one of the weakest. Ngannou began to expose Fury, now this.

                    Usyk maybe the best HW of this weaker era, But what people now realize is that he is far from the best of all time.

                    It took an MMA fighter and a kickboxer to come in and expose how overrated this HW boxing era is?

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                    • fifth_root
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Toffee

                      Rico was finished before the uppercut landed. He was done and then Usyk took advantage.

                      I thought he deserved to see the start of the 12th, or to at least let his corner decide if he could come back out.

                      I'm not quite so convinced the scorecards weren't right. I didn't score round by round so I'll need to watch again, but the DAZN scoring definitely had a "he did surprisingly well so he gets the round" slant.
                      Respectfully disagree, mate. I am coming out of Rico's hard situations in kickboxing - he barely has 2 KO losses there. We also add the open scoring, which was unseen. There was everything that could be wrong with this fight, so if anyone out there, sanctioning bodies or the noble knight on a white horse, Usyk, has any dignity, rule it NC.

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