Comments Thread For: One More Time? Does Keith Thurman have it in him?

[Southpawology]

Thurman's top wins are vs the beatable Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter.They were close wins. He never fought the top guy. Nor did he fight Spence. He got out hustled by old man Pac. He's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. Fundora looks like he's been working on his jab. I think he's going to bust up Thurman from a distance. Keith has a puncher's chance.

What is fundoras top wins? Lubin (who dropped him) and tzsyu which that win isnt looking that good anymore after bakram lost to kellly.

[BlackRobb]

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Tszyu is just the latest in a long line of Australian "prodigies" who couldn't live up to the local hype. We saw it with Horn, Katsidis, Kambosos, Green etc—all projected to rule their divisions until they stepped onto the world stage. The moment they faced real international heat, the fairy tale ended abruptly.
Tszyu was touted as a generational titan, only for the narrative to crumble the moment he faced top-tier international competition. For these fighters, the "fairy tale" rarely survives the jump from domestic hype to global reality.

And I have never called him a bum. Like I said, his career is pretty much over.

He crushed Tony Harrison. Harrison had a win over Jermell. He decisively beat the guy who starched Fundora. Tszyu is nowhere near as skilled as Keef, but he holds wins over very credible opposition.

[BlackRobb]

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Tszyu is just the latest in a long line of Australian "prodigies" who couldn't live up to the local hype. We saw it with Horn, Katsidis, Kambosos, Green etc—all projected to rule their divisions until they stepped onto the world stage. The moment they faced real international heat, the fairy tale ended abruptly.
Tszyu was touted as a generational titan, only for the narrative to crumble the moment he faced top-tier international competition. For these fighters, the "fairy tale" rarely survives the jump from domestic hype to global reality.

And I have never called him a bum. Like I said, his career is pretty much over.

Jeff Fenech was from Australia. I believe he's in the HOF and held belts from 118 to 126.

[Oregonian]

He crushed Tony Harrison. Harrison had a win over Jermell. He decisively beat the guy who starched Fundora. Tszyu is nowhere near as skilled as Keef, but he holds wins over very credible opposition.

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He sure did beat up Tony H.
Just like Kambosos beat Teo.
Just like Horn beat PAC.
Just like Danny Green beat Roy Jones.

I've never called Tszyu a bum and of course he gets credit for beating Tony H, however, what has he done since then? Kambosos fans can claim he beat Teo who beat Loma so that makes him the man. Maybe then. What has he done so far?

Tszyu is still young AND because he is a HUGE name in Australia, he will get the big fights whether he deserves them or not so my question to you is .... do you think Tszyu beats any of the 154 Ibs belt holders or Boots and Ortiz? If he can't beat any of them, what is his recourse? Move to 160Ibs?

[Oregonian]

Jeff Fenech was from Australia. I believe he's in the HOF and held belts from 118 to 126.

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Fenech is considered an ATG if I am not mistaken so you are 100% correct. I forgot about him. That said, I was making a general statement regarding all the hype about Aussie boxers in the last 20 years perhaps. And the examples I listed prove my point.

Jai Opetaia is a guy we are all keeping an eye out for at heavyweight. Perhaps he's going to be the guy that carries the torch Jeff Fenech left behind. Perhaps not. We'll find out soon enough.

[BlackRobb]

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Fenech is considered an ATG if I am not mistaken so you are 100% correct. I forgot about him. That said, I was making a general statement regarding all the hype about Aussie boxers in the last 20 years perhaps. And the examples I listed prove my point.

Jai Opetaia is a guy we are all keeping an eye out for at heavyweight. Perhaps he's going to be the guy that carries the torch Jeff Fenech left behind. Perhaps not. We'll find out soon enough.

Aussies are pretty tough fighters. I wouldn't generally dump on them like that.

[BlackRobb]

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He sure did beat up Tony H.
Just like Kambosos beat Teo.
Just like Horn beat PAC.
Just like Danny Green beat Roy Jones.

I've never called Tszyu a bum and of course he gets credit for beating Tony H, however, what has he done since then? Kambosos fans can claim he beat Teo who beat Loma so that makes him the man. Maybe then. What has he done so far?

Tszyu is still young AND because he is a HUGE name in Australia, he will get the big fights whether he deserves them or not so my question to you is .... do you think Tszyu beats any of the 154 Ibs belt holders or Boots and Ortiz? If he can't beat any of them, what is his recourse? Move to 160Ibs?

Tszyu is 31. I think he should be testing the empty 160 lb. division, but I get the impression that he doesn't trust his chin to hold up.

[ijudge]

Keef kinda sloppy in his last fight
Fundora streak will continue

[RockyKO]

Tszyu has a good chance against Josh Kelly. He would struggle with Xander who is too technical, Boots is too explosive, Ortiz possess way too much power and would out work him, and we already saw what happened with Fundora. If Fundora wins then I would love to see a Tszyu Thurman fight just for the inevitable KO.

[1Eriugenus]

I think what will most be tested is Thurmans's brain. He is shorter, smaller & much older than Fundura. He is going to have to try to walk his man into one big punch. IDK how smart Thurman or his corner are. They need chess players not dice throwers. I give 'Keef' like a 10% chance & that is if he walks his man into that shot, because Thurman has always been able to hit like a MoFo, & he won't have lost that at 37.