Why Didn't Andre Ward vs. GGG Ever Happen? Ward Finally Responds

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  • SteveM
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    #21
    As Ward pointed out, Tom Loeffler and K2 promotions did a fantastic job building an Eastern fighter into must-see PPV B-side (to Canelo). We know how boxing works, its a business. Any smart promoter and network are looking several steps ahead so it's very plausible that they had targetted Canelo as the ultimate target from a business point of view.
    I believe it was Sanchez who came out with the 154-168 line. This was a mistake and obviously off-message from what HBO wanted. The HBO executives were most likely on the phone to Loeffler immediately demanding to know WTF they put that out there for.
    The 154 part was obviously a tilt of the cap towards Mayweather who had 2 belts hels hostage there while he fought at 147. IF Golovkin could have clearly beaten Canelo then the next logical step would have been to move up to 168. As it happened, all concerned - apart from Ward - made far more money with the rematches.

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    • Theshotyoudontsee
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      #22
      All you have to do is watch their fights to see the truth.

      Golovkin stopped everyone and made them look weak. Before him they were good fighters. After GGG they were bums. GGG was past it a few years and he beat prime Canelo twice and got bad decisions.

      Ward is a fouling machine and terrible to watch. He makes BHop seem like an exciting fighter. Hit Kov in the nuts multiple times. He just s u c k e d in general. Retired young because he knew eventually his style would catch up to him.

      Ward is also so full of s h i t when he talks about basically anything that only a totally naive person can't see it. One of if not the most overrated fighters ever. If you look up fan comments in general on Ward this is just the plain truth.

      At least GGG avoided taking all the nutshots, headbutts and elbows. Good for him.

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      • SouthpawRight
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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Nice try daggum
        Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
        All you have to do is watch their fights to see the truth.

        Golovkin stopped everyone and made them look weak. Before him they were good fighters. After GGG they were bums. GGG was past it a few years and he beat prime Canelo twice and got bad decisions.

        Ward is a fouling machine and terrible to watch. He makes BHop seem like an exciting fighter. Hit Kov in the nuts multiple times. He just s u c k e d in general. Retired young because he knew eventually his style would catch up to him.

        Ward is also so full of s h i t when he talks about basically anything that only a totally naive person can't see it. One of if not the most overrated fighters ever. If you look up fan comments in general on Ward this is just the plain truth.

        At least GGG avoided taking all the nutshots, headbutts and elbows. Good for him.
        Golovkin already had a fight in the works so Ward said no problem, we can take an interim fight then face each other afterward.

        But of course one of the excuses used by Golovkin’s team to duck Ward was that they already had a fight scheduled.
        lol their argument boils down to I like golovkin fighting style therefore he didn't duck Ward

        it's in character golovkin who took no risks when it came to opponents

        compared to Dre who went up one to face the Russian Beast Sergey

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          #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Nice pic with Wart pointing to the hole in his infantile noggin.

          GGG offered TBE TUE l'l floydy a crack at his middle title @155lbs to no avail. Wart wanted him to come up to a catchweight @ 164lbs, but was death at the Gate Proceeds, so disaster averted until U started stirring shyte...
          I’m afraid you have your facts mixed up.

          It was Golovkin who wanted a 164 catchweight, not Ward.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SteveM
            As Ward pointed out, Tom Loeffler and K2 promotions did a fantastic job building an Eastern fighter into must-see PPV B-side (to Canelo). We know how boxing works, its a business. Any smart promoter and network are looking several steps ahead so it's very plausible that they had targetted Canelo as the ultimate target from a business point of view.
            I believe it was Sanchez who came out with the 154-168 line. This was a mistake and obviously off-message from what HBO wanted. The HBO executives were most likely on the phone to Loeffler immediately demanding to know WTF they put that out there for.
            The 154 part was obviously a tilt of the cap towards Mayweather who had 2 belts hels hostage there while he fought at 147. IF Golovkin could have clearly beaten Canelo then the next logical step would have been to move up to 168. As it happened, all concerned - apart from Ward - made far more money with the rematches.
            Ward acknowledges as much. Team Golovkin preferred to cherrypick and avoid Ward in order to get to a Canelo fight, which they eventually got 2 years down the line.

            So credit to them for being good businessmen and not idols of boxing.

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            • MUNG
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              #26
              This is what ward said before he retired

              And after making a successful leap to become champion at light-heavyweight, Ward believed he could continue to defeat "giants" and was suggested the idea of facing Joshua by his trainer Virgil Hunter.

              "I always seem to be knocking down giants one by one," Ward said. "Heavyweight, that's always been a dream of mine. It's got to be against the right guy, but I dream big and anything is possible"

              The guy who cries about ggg all the time was saying he was going all the way to heavyweight while he was active but he bailed out of 175 immediately

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              • SouthpawRight
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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Ward acknowledges as much. Team Golovkin preferred to cherrypick and avoid Ward in order to get to a Canelo fight, which they eventually got 2 years down the line.

                So credit to them for being good businessmen and not idols of boxing.
                backfired because golovkin would have had to take 9 rounds just to get a decision over Santos

                whereas it'd only be 7 rounds necessary vs Dre who had a niche style and smaller fanbase

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MUNG
                  This is what ward said before he retired

                  And after making a successful leap to become champion at light-heavyweight, Ward believed he could continue to defeat "giants" and was suggested the idea of facing Joshua by his trainer Virgil Hunter.

                  "I always seem to be knocking down giants one by one," Ward said. "Heavyweight, that's always been a dream of mine. It's got to be against the right guy, but I dream big and anything is possible"

                  The guy who cries about ggg all the time was saying he was going all the way to heavyweight while he was active but he bailed out of 175 immediately
                  interesting

                  Dre at heavy sounds as trollish as Fat Dave talking about heavy

                  both having started at 168

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                  • jackson414
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                    #29
                    ward never fancied the job.... not much more to it than that (and im a ward fan)

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                    • MUNG
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                      #30
                      'the art of ward'

                      this guys ego is off the charts - he had a poor fight v kovalev 1 getting dropped but got a UD win over the belt holder somehow someway then incredibly rocnation and jzee gave him a guarantee of 6.5 M for the rematch based on poor ppv figures for fight 1 and kovalev got zero guarantee whatsoever and was paid off ppv sales which were lower than poor fight 1 LOL, so kovalev had his belts robbed & was shafted in the purses for the rematch as well, and then ward had his own personal ref in fight 2 tony weeks and we all know how that played out, this is what happens in boxing when u allow guys like ward to keep their 0

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