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  • SouthpawRight
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    Saul Ducking Fat Dave Made No Sense

    Saul must have saw something in Fat Dave. Because he doesn’t fit the stylistic mold of what troubles Saul: great footwork defensive minded range fighters

    In earlier 2023 Fat Dave came off of a 8-4 win against Caleb. Saul beat Caleb first and did it better by wide beat down ko.

    Around the time of Fat Dave-Caleb, Saul dominated John

    Later that year Fat Dave would then ko the undersized Demetrius. Saul beats up Jermell [better fighter than Demetrius]

    Fat Dave performed well in these bouts but was far from great. Saul jeeted anyways.

    The profile boost from being ducked turned out to be the best thing that happened to Fat Dave’s stardom

    Fat Dave went from being a good contender to having his own mythos the almighty avoided monster ducked by the great Saul
    Last edited by SouthpawRight; 01-22-2026, 01:58 PM.
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    #2
    I think it's Benavidez volume that would trouble him. Canelo likes to control the action and the pace if he can. And it would be hard with Benavidez.

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      #3
      Originally posted by jreckoning2
      I think it's Benavidez volume that would trouble him. Canelo likes to control the action and the pace if he can. And it would be hard with Benavidez.
      I think lot of the fight would take place in the pocket like Cuban Dave-Fat Dave

      Saul lacks the footwork to move like Caleb Demetrius Gvozdyk

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      • tokon
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        #4
        Alvarez doesn't have the conditioning to match the pace and output of benavidez and would be too small to keep him off.

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          #5
          Originally posted by tokon
          Alvarez doesn't have the conditioning to match the pace and output of benavidez and would be too small to keep him off.
          SANTOS would be 36 if he fights Fat Dave in May 2027

          When he fought SANTOS and was robbed golovkin was 35 the first time and 8 years older

          SANTOS is about 6.5 years older than Fat Dave

          Does SANTOS still have it in him to eek out a 7-5 win

          SANTOS has only 2 fights left why not

          fight would need to be at 175
          Last edited by SouthpawRight; 01-22-2026, 03:42 PM.

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          • Oracle01
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            If you understand boxing you should have known David was a nightmare match up for Canelo. If you still can't work out why, you should stop debating boxing.

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            • daggum
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              it made perfect sense ducking him. he knew he couldnt win. simple as that. he managed to squeeze a bunch of easy fights and extend his fake "aura" of being an elite fighter and with that came all the accolades and tons of money, but mostly for a narcissistic like him it just felt good that people were calling him the best, the champ, etc...he also knew he had nowhere else to run to. he couldnt go down to 160, he couldnt compete at 175 clearly. it was either duck benavidez or create a new 172 pound division to hide in but he already tried that when he was ducking ggg. he hoped people wouldnt realize he was ducking or he hoped benavidez would lose or move up but it became too obvious
              Last edited by daggum; 01-22-2026, 04:47 PM.

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              • SouthpawRight
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                #8
                Originally posted by Oracle01
                If you understand boxing you should have known David was a nightmare match up for Canelo. If you still can't work out why, you should stop debating boxing.
                long way to say you have nothing



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                  #9
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  it made perfect sense ducking him. he knew he couldnt win. simple as that. he managed to squeeze a bunch of easy fights and extend his fake "aura" of being an elite fighter and with that came all the accolades and tons of money, but mostly for a narcissistic like him it just felt good that people were calling him the best, the champ, etc...he also knew he had nowhere else to run to. he couldnt go down to 160, he couldnt compete at 175 clearly. it was either duck benavidez or create a new 172 pound division to hide in but he already tried that when he was ducking ggg
                  boxing is deep fried if the p4p king was a fake elite

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                  • daggum
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    boxing is deep fried if the p4p king was a fake elite
                    he wasnt p4p #1 since losing to bivol 4 years ago. he spent the last 4+ years ducking benavidez. he lost to crawford in embarrassing fashion. he beat no one who was very good in between those 2 losses. so how is that elite? he wanted you to think he was elite but to be elite you have to do elite things. you cant rest on your laurels and thats exactly what he did. it was a charade, a conn, a sham. he was good enough to beat the B or C level guys in his division but he has no A level wins since plant, and benavidez beat down plant as well. if he wanted to prove who was best he had the chance but he chose to take easy fights. he abdicated his "throne" in other words and any claim to being elite or the king of the division. or in modern parlance, he wasnt that guy, pal.
                    Last edited by daggum; 01-22-2026, 07:56 PM.

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